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Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by bogomipz »

cubefox wrote: post #49

Websites like Quora, Instagram, TikTok, and now X, work against the idea of an open Web. Content is increasingly concentrated into separated silos. But I understand why it's happening: People who don't have an account can't receive personalized ads.

FB, Linkedin, Pinterest as well. All of these walled gardens are "built on the shoulder of giants", whose work pioneered the open internet.

Further, what isn't silos seems to be content chum whose main purpose is collecting the reader's email address.

Oddly the modern web seems to be driving me offline and back to books.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by hexage1814 »

amatecha wrote: post #151
hexage1814 wrote: post #128

I wonder if Youtube will ever do the same with Invidious by requiring an account for people to view videos. Sure, it might seen unthinkable for this to happen in 2024, but give it more 5 or 10 years and I could see this being something acceptable to the eyes of the average user. I don't like the direction the internet is going :\

Oh yeah, I see it as inevitable. I'm blown away that YouTube is still accessible without an account. It's only a matter of time, though, I'd wager. I never thought Twitter would require an account to view its content.

It's not the same site, but it's the same company: one thing that caught my attention lately is those little messages nagging you whenever you access Google without being logged in. And... those sorta passive aggressive behavior always start like this. Like, "Oh, why don't you log in? It's good for you, log in!", and as the time passes that behavior just gets more and more hostile towards the user until you end up reaching twitter/instagram levels.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jjackson5324 »

jameshart wrote: post #98
jjackson5324 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing 1) HN readers don't like Elon Musk (I don't like him either) so they don't like Twitter 2) I implied HN readers are doing something wrong (as any other human being, they don't like being told that) 3) I (slightly) insulted the intelligence of HN readers by saying they didn't know how to use Twitter and they really don't like that I've just gotten downvotes and no one's responded with any actual rebuttals…

You are missing the fact that, for many of us who used to enjoy Twitter in exactly the way you described, X no longer fills that need, because the subject matter experts whose real-time thoughts we used to follow have left the platform, and all that remains are people whose real-time thoughts we don't generally want to hear. That may differ from your experience - your real-time expert community might be different tha…

> because the subject matter experts whose real-time thoughts we used to follow have left the platform

Do mind naming 10 subject matter experts who've permanently left twitter?

I'm really curious as to which communities used to be vibrant on Twitter and then died after the X switch over.

Yeah, as you stated, my personal experience is that all the communities I follow continue to be active.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by jodrellblank »

cruano wrote: post #113
jjackson5324 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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"Yeah, the best content is on twitter, you have everything from links to Medium to links to personal websites, sometimes there's even screenshots of them!"

You know how Stallman browses the web by emailing a scraper that replies only the text? And he avoids all the Medium flurry of popups and overlays and trackers and cookies and other rubbish?

Seeing a screenshot of the text in Twitter accidentally does that too, and provides a better experience than visiting the site for anyone who doesn't need to customise the text for readability.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by lvass »

jjackson5324 wrote: post #94
superhumanuser wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this reply getting downvoted?

I'm guessing 1) HN readers don't like Elon Musk (I don't like him either) so they don't like Twitter 2) I implied HN readers are doing something wrong (as any other human being, they don't like being told that) 3) I (slightly) insulted the intelligence of HN readers by saying they didn't know how to use Twitter and they really don't like that I've just gotten downvotes and no one's responded with any actual rebuttals…

For me it's the abysmal SNR no matter where I look, except if it absolutely needs to be real-time. Even considering just the "content" and ignoring the unfathomable interface that we're left with now.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by Acrobatic_Road »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #135
nomilk wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Twitter is/was not a utility I've found no substitute for getting breaking news on a specific topic (e.g. natural disasters, war, politics, sport). Google News is second best, but the sites it indexes are at the absolute least 20 minutes behind twitter. Zite was my favourite app from many, many years ago. But it was good at collating daily reading, not for up to the minute/second curation. For certain topics that a…

Unless you are working as a journalist, or for some other reason you need to respond immediately to world events, you could just abstain.

Twitter was great for reporting on court cases. For example, last year the Biden administration essentially made millions of Americans into felons via an obscure ATF rule change. The rule has since been enjoined by at least three federal courts, which anyone who follows @2aupdates would know about because he crawls the PACER feeds. My local newspaper has been following this story, but as recently as last week reported that the rule was still in effect. I submitted a correction and they fixed it.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by amatecha »

justnotworthit wrote: post #141
npunt wrote: post #52

I just want to run a headless browser that logs into my socials periodically and scrapes the stuff I want from the account I follow and puts it into a less addictive format that provides an upper limit on my possible exposure and engagement. I’m happy to run it locally from my device. Ideally it redirects links to socials I come across too. Where is such a thing?

im reminded of an ipad app 10 years ago that did roughly this, creating a magazine like interaction with your twitter, google reader, etc.

Oh yeah, Paper.li, right? https://web.archive.org/web/20120204055823/http://paper.li/

Unfortunately they've shut down at some point, it seems (thus my linking to archive.org instead of their actual domain).

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by bilbo0s »

nomilk wrote: post #131
ryandrake wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

> Twitter is/was not a utility I've found no substitute for getting breaking news on a specific topic (e.g. natural disasters, war, politics, sport). Google News is second best, but the sites it indexes are at the absolute least 20 minutes behind twitter. Zite was my favourite app from many, many years ago. But it was good at collating daily reading, not for up to the minute/second curation. For certain topics that a…

I guess it depends on what content you want.

I don't really get into the news enough to want a real time feed. Even if I did, I think I'd look for something more reliable than a collection of posts from Twitter users. It probably even goes deeper than not getting into news for me though, because heck, I don't even watch much TV really.

But I am into sports. And I think the best real time sports feeds out there are the reddit game threads. Now maybe the threads on X are better for some people? I don't know? But reddit game threads are far superior for my purposes. ie - Finding out if everyone else is thinking "What The Actual F--- was that?" Whenever Drew Allar threw the ball in a bowl game for instance.

Similar to you not having found a substitute for news over Twitter, I haven't found a substitute for reddit game threads where these kinds of sanity checks are concerned.

Re: "If nothing changes, all remaining Nitter instances will go down eventually"

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Post by stouset »

nomilk wrote: post #131
ryandrake wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Twitter is/was not a utility, not a “modern post office” not a “town square” (before someone tries to bring up that terrible analogy too) and really doesn’t deserve people’s grief. It’s yet another corporate-owned and controlled messaging app and we are seeing the inevitable result of that control.

> Twitter is/was not a utility I've found no substitute for getting breaking news on a specific topic (e.g. natural disasters, war, politics, sport). Google News is second best, but the sites it indexes are at the absolute least 20 minutes behind twitter. Zite was my favourite app from many, many years ago. But it was good at collating daily reading, not for up to the minute/second curation. For certain topics that a…

> the sites it indexes are at the absolute least 20 minutes behind twitter

Genuine question: who cares?

There is almost no news where the difference between getting it now, twenty minutes from now, or tonight makes a meaningful differ to your life. Much of the information in the first twenty minutes of an event will be confusing, misleading, and/or wrong.

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