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The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by renegat0x0 »

I think most people misunderstand that the search engines are not content.

Internet was always full of spam. Google was able to work around that. Since for some years Internet became dead because Google is not able to keep up.

Internet was dogshit. Now it is just AI dogshit. Google was quite good, but now it is not.

In a few years we will not use Google search, we will ask chatbots for answers. There will be no "link archive", or nobody will be interested at all in looking at them.

Chatbots will be worshiped. Why going to BBC, if chatbot will always 'know better'.

Google will not invest into Google search, as this "program" will die. Killed of.

Journalists will remain. BBC will continue writing stories, which will be created only to feed chat bot monsters.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by sssilver »

Tongue in cheek: is public key cryptography the solution to verifying content authorship on the internet? Should all major OSes establish and bundle proof of authenticity for every phrase and image created in them using an input device attached to them?

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by rglover »

I've had a draft blog post on my todo list for awhile titled "Chauffeur Knowledge and the Impending AI Crack-Up." While humorous today, the eggs melting and sinus inflammation are perfect examples of where I think AI will cause the most destruction. I'm of the mind that any societal collapse generated by AI will be one of stupidity and over-reliance on AI's "intelligence" as infallible, not some Terminator scenario or elimination of too many jobs.

Eventually, people will not know the difference between an AI "hallucination" and factual information. This becomes a serious problem when you consider that there's already an existing cohort of people who blindly trust Google over experienced humans. Case in point: I just saw a video [1] this morning where an air traffic controller argues with an experienced pilot about their approach method, citing "I Googled it" as their authoritative information source.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=BxbF638gCYQ

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by rvba »

nunez wrote: post #100

This is an old problem that LLM-generated content only accelerated. LMGTFY died when Google tripled down on growing their ad revenue and adtech dominance and SEO ran rampant throughout search results. It is fairly difficult to get non-biased factual information from a naked query these days, which is why I try to search for info on Reddit first. This isn't a panacea either given that it's been chock-ful of astroturfe…

You think that spammers dont use AI to write on reddit now?

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by nicbou »

bovermyer wrote: post #103
cranberryturkey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

time to abandon google and go back to web rings.

And/or human-curated web directories.

And trusted brands.

People buy brands because they don't want to figure out what's good or bad. Brands tend to gain a reputation by being good.

The same is true for websites. People will trust specific websites when they seek information, and those websites will get passed around.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

riversflow wrote: post #155
jprete wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grammar, spelling, and punctuation have never been _proof_ of good communication, they were just _correlated_ with it. Both emails are equally bad from a communication purist viewpoint, it's just that one has the traditional markers of effort and the other does not. I personally have wondered if I should start systematically favoring bad grammar/punctuation/spelling both in the posts I treat as high quality, and in m…

I’ve been trying kinda hard to relax on my spelling, grammar and punctuation. For me it’s not just a habit I learned in childhood, but one that was rather strongly reinforced online as a teenager in the era of grammar nazis. I see it now as the person respecting their own time.

Yeah, there's this weird stigma about making typos, but in the end writing online is about communication and making yourself understandable. Typos here and there don't make a difference and thinking otherwise seems like some needless "intellectual" superiority competition. Growing up people associate it with intelligence so many times, it's hard to not feel ashamed when making typos.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by nicbou »

codexb wrote: post #153

Lets be honest, the internet has always been full of Dogshit. Teachers have long warned us about using Wikipedia as a source. Fake news has always existed. Real news has been diluting itself with questionably true clickbait for years. The mass scramble by companies to hastily use AI is just further diluting and tainting the standard information outlets we've used.

It just got a lot cheaper to generate convincing dogshit

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by bombcar »

Eisenstein wrote: post #56
WesSouza wrote: post #7

"Google Is Full of AI Dogshit" or "Search Engines Are Full of AI Dogshit" or even better "Search Engine Algorithms Expose All of Internet's recent AI Dogshit"

How about 'internet content which is dependent on ad-revenue inevitably turns anything associated with it to dogshit'?

I have a sneaking suspicion that at some point in the distant future advertising will be banned simply because it's so associated with the tragedy of the information commons.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Post by luma »

ravenstine wrote: post #118

Although I agree with the title, I also don't think the internet is that significantly different from before GPTs 4, 3, or 2. Articles written by interns or Indian virtual assistants about generic topics are pretty much as bad as most AI generated material and isn't that distinguishable from it. It doesn't help that search engines today sort by prestige over whether your query matches text in a webpage. People aren't…

Totally agreed, SEO spammers wrecked the public web years ago and Google did everything they could to enable it for more ad revenue.
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