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Read the first paragraph: >> Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models.
That's because it's a warranty - it covers faults, not damages. If you want apple to fork out for a new one because you've dived into the sea with the phone on an armband then you need to pony up for Apple Care +
I wonder if Apple will ever make a waterproof laptop or tablet. It seems like they could easily make the macbook air waterproof at this point, if they were so inclined. What do people who want use their macs out in the field do?
Having used ruggedised laptops in the past - usually the keyboards are pretty horrible if they're fully waterproof. Depends between model to model, but the most fully-waterproof ones we had had a full membrane over the keyboard, making it super spongey and terrible to type on. An iPad on the other hard would be pretty easy to make fully waterproof like the phones, since it only has a couple of buttons and one port.
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Sony phones with headphone jacks, ten years ago were capable of all waterproof things you wanted to do. It's been a massive gaslighting campaign.
And Sony Xperias still come with headphone jacks today[1] after they tried Apple'ing for a couple models and got laughed at. [1]: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-table...
Is this true for other HNers also?
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I can confirm. I work at a school with a massive fleet of Macs. The kids generally kill their devices with water by keeping their water bottle in the same bag as their MacBook. Doesn’t matter how often I tell them not to, they insist on doing this.
What do you expect them to do instead? Carry two bags? Keep the bottle in their hand at all times? I think both are highly inconvenient. There are backpacks with bottle holders on the outside, but in my experience, those aren’t very good at holding a bottle. Not bringing a bottle probably is the best option, but that may not be a good option in very hot climates.
And some backpacks actually have working bottle holders on the outside ...
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Volume, I’m sure. They sell a large volume of a small number of SKUs so go for the minimum feature set that can get them out a couple of sigmas of the target market. Anything else is aftermarket (special case) or just “buy something else”. There are a few exceptions. I wonder how many Mac pros they really sell. I assume it’s really a “halo” product that sells more Mac studios and MacBook pros. Also the Mac in general…
Half of developers in North America, and especially those at top tier companies, use Macs. You can't buy that kind of top tech mindshare with marketing. Also now with the M-series CPUs, Macbooks aren't PC Clones anymore, they're back in the game of being an exclusive platform, which will get even more exclusive as they add other specialized chips. Their sales share of the market and as you mention, their profit share…
Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
Samsung devices have moisture detection via USB-C for a long time. It does not work very reliable and many people have problems ( https://ifixit.com/Antworten/Ansehen/511762/How+to+stop+the+... ). I randomly get this error when I try to charge my S21 with my Macbook Pros charging cable.
Except when Apple decides to cancel your warranty over this, they're more likely to have defenders.
Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
Nothing in the article says Apple will void warranty on an iPhone if water has been detected in the charging port (water damage is a different thing entirely). This concerns Mac computers, which are not sold as waterproof.
> Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models.
But the article is kind of all over the place. It then says Macs can now detect water in USB-C ports while having pictures in the article of iPhones showing messages that they detected liquids. They like to make the point that Macs will report this back home to the mothershop while iPhones do not? idk
Let's assume on Macs this is used to void warranty because like you said, they are not sold as waterproof. On iPhones it's to alert the user, so he can remove the water from the port - not concerning warranty?
Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
My android pixel 7 reported water ingress in the usb port during a hike to kinder scout in the peak district (UK). It was raining lightly, but mostly there was a very thick fog / mist / drizzle that didn't really fall from the sky or land on you, rather it enveloped and coated you such that you were soaked. I'd only removed my phone from my waterproof jacket pocket on two occasions to verify GPS location as I was sti…
Wonder how my warranty's doing.