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Airtable acquires Airplane

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Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by mestor »

brunovcosta wrote: post #155

Founder of https://abstra.io here (YC S21, a python friendly alternative to Airplane). Given the abrupt timeline of 3 months, we are urgently prioritizing support for Airplane users. If you're seeking a more open-source, user-friendly, and secure alternative, please don't hesitate to get in touch: airplane-to@abstra.io We promise to make every effort to ensure a smooth and safe transition for you.

I am one of the first abstra users. I can not be happier. Support service is top notch and the tech it's sound and stable. You can create apps in a few lines of code! Love it

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by Sephr »

rubenfiszel wrote: post #152
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so if i host on my own server i still have to pay you per cpu?

If you want the enterprise edition, then yes

I'm confused. You claimed in your first comment that your platform is "fully open-source".

How is your enterprise edition "fully open source" if I have to pay to enable certain features when self-hosting?

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by mohanarpit »

Founder of Appsmith (https://appsmith.com) here.

This is very unfortunate news. I have a lot of respect for the founders & the product. In fact I even used Airplane for a few side projects in the past. It's sad to see the product die.

IMO, most folks alluding to them running out money is incorrect. I think they simply ran out of energy or the will to go on. This is very common among early stage companies. But, as consumers, it also highlights the dangers of betting a large part of your workflows on any closed source SaaS. It can disappear with the drop of a hat.

This is why adopting OSS alternatives is essential. OSS solutions like Appsmith, puts you, the user, in control and allows you to determine how you'd like to control your stack. Your migration plans and functioning of tools isn't determined by events halfway across the world & outside your control.

If you are looking to move your workflows from Airplane, we have an early version that resembles Airplane. Do reach out to me at arpit [at] appsmith.com and let us help you.

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

Sephr wrote: post #162
rubenfiszel wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want the enterprise edition, then yes

I'm confused. You claimed in your first comment that your platform is "fully open-source". How is your enterprise edition "fully open source" if I have to pay to enable certain features when self-hosting?

i dont think their enterprise edition is open source. they only say open source on the first "free and open source" pricing table, presumably rest of enterprsise editions aren't

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by Sephr »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #164
Sephr wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused. You claimed in your first comment that your platform is "fully open-source". How is your enterprise edition "fully open source" if I have to pay to enable certain features when self-hosting?

i dont think their enterprise edition is open source. they only say open source on the first "free and open source" pricing table, presumably rest of enterprsise editions aren't

I looked into it more. Enterprise edition actually is fully open source, including the (easily removable) DRM...

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by jakemoshenko »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #24
amatecha wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there's a business/service that estimates "remaining funding" based on raised funds vs. number of employees and their respective role's average salary? You could almost see it coming when a company is still in the early stages, probably not generating revenue, and burning up cash. The fact I even think about this means someone in the area of business finance thought of it a looong time ago... haha

Could probably build this with paid access to Crunchbase data set and LinkedIn headcount. Their roles, when advertised, should have (broadly defined) cash comp depending on state pay transparency laws. Cool idea. Seriously though, if you're a business like https://simpleclosure.com/ you'd probably use this for prospecting. Recruiters too might pay for such a list to recruit from companies in peril ("motivated talent"…

You're missing the revenue component if you do that.

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by 4ggr0 »

rubenfiszel wrote: post #98

(Founder of windmill.dev, the closest alternative to Airplane and we are OSS) Congrats on the acquisition Airplane team. You were a strong inspiration for us, a precursor and set a high-quality bar for pro-code developer platforms. I have nothing but respect for the Airplane team and we probably wouldn't exist in our current form without your competition. We are ready to migrate all Airplane customers and the migrati…

We use windmill.dev since a couple of months now and are really happy. Development is very transparent as you can join their discord and give them feedback. We've had multiple moments where things were modified, adjusted or improved in <1h after we mentioned something. Seems like a great team. +1.

Re: Airtable acquires Airplane

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Post by reptin »

purec0de wrote: post #136
dvdhsu wrote: post #66

I have a lot of respect for the product and the folks at Airplane. And I (even as a "competitor") find it sad that such a great product is being shut down. My best guess is that they were running out of cash. This to me is pretty surprising... because it's actually not hard to make a SaaS business profitable. You just have to build a great product, and be disciplined at hiring. It's weird that they seem to have done…

Another competitor of Retool with around 150 employees is very far away from 1m in revenue as far as I know. They recently did a layoff as well. VC money that flowed in 2021 has created a bunch a money burning machines.

Retool also laid off people: https://www.teamblind.com/post/Retool-lays-off-customer-succ...
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