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I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by chronogram »

developerDan wrote: post #133
freedomben wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You bounced quickly then without trying very hard. Gnome comes with a GUI disk utility tool pre-installed that is easy enough for a Windows user ;-)

I was recommended a distro that doesn’t use Gnome (Lubuntu). The system I was working with is very old and some light research made it seem like Gnome is pretty resource heavy.

How old are we talking about? 10+ years ago I was running Gnome3 on decent hardware of the time, and everything was snappy[0]. Now all the OS software got faster since then, so everything is still snappy on that thing despite that hardware now being old. Similarly that laptop came with Windows 7 and that was snappy, and the Windows 2021 LTSC on it is also snappy[0].

0: I care about responsiveness, so I've always disabled animations on every device, so I have no experience if some animations can run at 60fps on some hardware and 30fps on others.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by bravetraveler »

Deathmax wrote: post #126
bravetraveler wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* depending on the anti-cheat or DRM This is true for at least EAC/EasyAntiCheat. This covers a lot, sure, but not everything!

Battleye has integrations with Proton as well, but as with EAC, it's opt in by the developer, and not every dev enables it.

Sure - leads more to my point of... check the games you care about for support. I didn't really want to start itemizing these things.

Most AC used in the competitive Counter-Strike community isn't supported, for example. Only first-party VAC.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by goncalossilva »

toxicunderGroov wrote: post #73

bazzite.gg alsof does this very well. On AMD hardware it did 120hz VRR out of the box and u can alpha test HDR support.

2023 was the first year I gamed exclusively on Linux according to Steam's year in review, including some of this year's titles. Most of that was on the Steam Deck or on a virtual machine with GPU passthrough running Bazzite. It is really well made.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by moondev »

quaffapint wrote: post #34

I actually just ordered a GPU for my unRaid NAS server just to be able to do Steam Headless via a nice docker image(1) and then use Moonlight (for example) as a client on my Windows laptop. If it works, it's much better than buying yet another piece of desktop hardware just to play games when my NAS is just sitting there idle most of the time. Just need to make sure I keep the power level setting on the Nvidia card t…

Another alternative, launch a kvm with GPU passthrough and use cloudinit to launch sunshine and the game, or just use the monitor directly.

https://kubevirt.io/user-guide/virtual_machines/host-devices...

Declarative cloud native game launching!

      kubectl apply -f crysis.yaml

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by slimsag »

jamies wrote: post #99

If you're interested in running SteamOS on a Linux PC, I'd recommend: https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso

> No. Not even questionable. If you have an NVIDIA GPU, You're on your own. Latest Valve updates for Steam client including normal and Jupiter bootstraps have broken gamepadui on NVIDIA GPUs, and if so, no support will be provided for you.

Bummer. This rules out 76% of steam users, according to their hardware surveys.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by smoldesu »

slimsag wrote: post #165
jamies wrote: post #99

If you're interested in running SteamOS on a Linux PC, I'd recommend: https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso

> No. Not even questionable. If you have an NVIDIA GPU, You're on your own. Latest Valve updates for Steam client including normal and Jupiter bootstraps have broken gamepadui on NVIDIA GPUs, and if so, no support will be provided for you. Bummer. This rules out 76% of steam users, according to their hardware surveys.

That description is pretty hyperbolic. The SteamOS UI (eg. the Steam Deck-looking part) is very broken on Nvidia right now, but the actual gaming part (eg Proton and the Steam launcher) works fine. If you just want to play mouse-and-keyboard in desktop mode, recent Nvidia cards are generally pretty cooperative.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by iknowstuff »

developerDan wrote: post #131
bisby wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's untrue though. Linux has a disk utility (I use gparted personally). And you can surely do it on the command line in a single command. On Linux you could automate that task. How would you propose automating "open disk utility and click a few buttons" on Windows? This is less of a "Linux can't" issue and more of a "I quickly know how to do it on Windows after years of experience and I don't know how to do it on…

When I Googled how to complete this task I came across multiple results all of which suggesting to use a string of CLI commands. GParted was suggested in some of the results but it wasn’t installed by default on the distro I was recommended (Lubuntu) so I had to punch in even more commands to get it installed. Then after creating the partition it was still unusable until I mounted the drive (which wasn’t clear until…

I swear the biggest problem with linux is the nerds pushing newbies towards esoteric garbage distros instead of established and widely supported ones like straight up Ubuntu with Gnome.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by quaffapint »

sdl wrote: post #148
quaffapint wrote: post #34

I actually just ordered a GPU for my unRaid NAS server just to be able to do Steam Headless via a nice docker image(1) and then use Moonlight (for example) as a client on my Windows laptop. If it works, it's much better than buying yet another piece of desktop hardware just to play games when my NAS is just sitting there idle most of the time. Just need to make sure I keep the power level setting on the Nvidia card t…

I spent some (too much) time trying to get pretty much the same thing running using GOW [1]. Was quite a bit harder than I thought, requiring a hdmi dummy plug to get the xserver config right etc. 1: https://github.com/games-on-whales/gow

Good call out - this does require a dummy plug as well.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by smoldesu »

pjmlp wrote: post #95
coffeebeqn wrote: post #2

I was totally blown away by how good Proton is in the post Steam Deck world. I now play Steam games on my Linux laptop almost daily because they “just work” even when the only listed supported platform is Windows

Pity that it solidifies Windows as the top PC gaming OS, that all studios should care about. Let Valve do the needful for running them under GNU/Linux, if at all.

Pity that Khronos never got the support they needed to make cross-platform raster APIs a reality. I mean really, what an enormous and crying shame that a successor to a highly-demanded API like OpenGL never emerged. It's really quite sad that users never had a corporate champion to resist the allure of a proprietary graphics API. The stage was set for every modern OS to be unified under a new raster library, but the setting was dashed for a petty buck. Quite a tragedy.

Ah well, it's funny to see people complaining because it really solos out the OS you're using. Windows users have native DirectX, Linux users have near-flawless DXVK, and Mac users... well, Mac users get what Apple gives them, and they have to learn to be happy with it.

Re: I forked SteamOS for my living room PC

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Post by [deleted] »

dixie_land wrote: post #88
mat0 wrote: post #67

What a thorough and interesting post. I would personally never do something like this. The most tinkering I've ever done with Linux was in my RaspberryPi era and that's 1% at most. So props to the author

I was in a similar situation as the author: for quite a while I had to build my own Redhat kernel for a very obscure case: by pass RMRR check to pass GPU to a windows VM. (similar to https://github.com/kiler129/relax-intel-rmrr ; not my repo) The root issue can only be addressed by ROM updates from the manufacturer but I'm running an old DL360 that's no longer supported by HPE. The patch itself is only one line chang…

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