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Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
I urge you to look up the definition of a genocide as defined by the United Nations. It's not just an accusation being thrown around for rhetorical purposes. This slaughter meets all the criteria.
It does not. The war is being waged with the intent to destroy Hamas (which has itself stated that its goal is to destroy Israel, if given the chance), not to kill every last Palestinian. See also https://youtu.be/L9n77DPJ7AE
Not a bad video, but I think there is missing context. It also doesn't really "absolve" Israel on what might be a technicality (Genocide vs other Crimes AH).
There is a pretty good comment there though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9n77DPJ7AE&lc=Ugxo07TPIYWoI...
I think the quotes there are pretty telling:
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."
-- Netanyahu, via theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/20/benjamin-netanyahu-hamas-israel-prime-minister
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#163What was it we used to hear? Their platform, their rules? The fact is people are unprincipled and will either complain about free speech or will clamor for it, or complain about censorship or clamor for it depending on point of view. I wish people were principled and stood on principle and not what dog they have in a fight.
> Their platform, their rules?
This works at a national level too: "our country, our rules (laws)"
And FB and the like have been found to break a number of laws in the past: https://edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fine-f...
Perhaps alternative planforms would have a better chance if FB played fair?
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given your stance, if a murderer runs in your house then you'll understand when the police break the door down and kill you and everyone inside right?
Expand that a bit, if the murder runs into your house and then uses it as a staging ground to start killing your neighbors, there is a high risk the SWAT team is coming in guns a blazing.
If SWAT know that there are innocent women and children in the house, then they do not "[come] in guns a blazing".
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#165Can someone explain how every single post about Palestine/Israel is flagged and removed the instant it hits front page? I have seen this with around 4-5 threads personally and who knows how many I missed
Users are flagging them. I don't think it's hard to understand why: it's a divisive and flameprone topic.
Two positions that people urge us to take (different people, obviously) are (1) treat it as off topic and flag everything; or (2) have no limits, which means letting it dominate the front page. Neither of these positions are viable for HN. For reasons why I say that, see past explanations at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... - these are general explanations, not specifically about Gaza, but they apply to that also.
HN has had at least two major related threads so far:
The pro-Israel information war - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38572675 - Dec 2023 (1673 comments)
'Like we were lesser humans': Gaza boys, men recall Israeli arrest, torture - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616550 - Dec 2023 (1309 comments)
Here are some explanations I posted the last time this question of flags came up, in case helpful at all:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38657829
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38657527
Obviously we want commenters to have thoughtful, respectful, open conversation with each other rather than just fighting a war on HN. Equally obviously, it's pretty hard to avoid the latter. These things can only be 'graded on a curve', i.e. moderation has to shift somewhat, relative to the topic - not to do that would be expecting people not to be human, which is a losing proposition. But that does not mean the rules somehow switch off. Accounts that break the HN guidelines egregiously (such as by getting aggressive or posting in the flamewar style) are going to get warned and/or banned, regardless of who they're battling for or against. More than that, I'm not sure what we can do.
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, any conflict where the aim is not to "destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".
Feel free to actually list a couple so we can dive into the specifics.
Feel free to do any of the work yourself also; This is a claim you are making isn't it?
Ok, here is a list of armed conflicts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict... Some are conflicted as being power struggles between groups of certain ethnicities; not all involve ethnic cleansing.
Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_drug_war that seems not to have any relation to genocide.
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
A couple weeks or so ago after some UN official was in the news for resigning in protest over what was happening in Gaza and called it a genocide, NPR interviewed someone who has actually prosecuted genocide cases and asked him if the UN official was right. According to the prosecutor he didn't think a case could be made. The key is that "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religio…
> According to the prosecutor he didn't think a case could be made. The key is that "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such" part. Moreno Ocampo, the former ICC prosecutor interviewed, actually said the opposite you're claiming. See https://www.aljazeera.com/program/upfront/2023/12/1/former-i...
That's a different prosecutor, Luis Moreno Ocampo, who was an ICC prosecutor. NPR talked to [1] David M. Crane, who is a founding chief prosecutor on the U.N. Special Court for Sierra Leone.
[1] https://www.npr.org/2023/11/21/1214341050/prosecutor-weighs-...
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#168One day, there will be a bigish war, and comms between the sides will be cut off, either by law, or all comms links severed.
At that point, every global business will have to figure out how to split their business in two, their database in two, their server infrastructure in two, etc. and have both halves work.
I suspect that few businesses have prepared for such an eventuality, and I suspect severe disruption can be expected when it happens.
For anyone designing something new today, the main prep you can do is to never use sequences for database ID's. By using random id's, you can mostly let your replicated database partition itself, and a later merge isn't too hard as long as most users have been operating on only one side of the divide.
Re: Meta censors pro-Palestinian views on a global scale, report claims
#169[flagged]
More on the same for those out of the loop:
https://erinkissane.com/meta-in-myanmar-part-i-the-setup (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37709284)
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