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Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by acedTrex »

jmye wrote: post #159
carlosjobim wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m considering the 10 a month but then I think I get 500gb e2ee cloud+email+email hosting+vpn+a couple of other small things from proton for $8.33 a month. Just because Proton is a great deal doesn't make Kagi a worse deal. This kind of logic never made sense to me. The products have nothing in common, so why the comparison? Then, also think about why you're worrying about spending $10 per month on a product that…

Absolutely. $120/year, to me, is cheap to have a search engine that actually, fundamentally works. That it keeps me out of the Google ecosystem a bit more is a massive added bonus. I pay similar to stay out of gmail and the rest of the G suite. I get that some people have a different financial situation and I respect that, but the cost seems deeply negligible for the benefits of a tool I use tens to hundreds of times…

a solid search engine saves me far more then 120 a year in my time. Even just for work stuff if it saves me an hour or two over the entire course of a year it was worth it

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by karmakaze »

I don't want to pay for a search service and have 'range anxiety' and self-regulate my usage like I'm driving a 50km EV.

Search is ubiquitous, make a flat rate subscription for normal people and a TOS that excludes non-human abuses. I don't pay for a per call mobile phone plan and I make way more searches.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by goplayoutside »

mroche wrote: post #2

If viewing this link in the future, either search for "Dec 7, 2023" or view this snapshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20231208050228/https://kagi.com/...

They really should add anchors on that page, this is not the first time this problem has come up.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by ziddoap »

carlosjobim wrote: post #135
nalekberov wrote: post #90

I am still not convinced that I should trust Kagi. Why should I use my email address to log into the system? They say that it's for them to know how much credit you have left. Mullvad does generate a unique number for you, which you can use indefinitely.

If you don't trust something, you should follow your gut instinct. Do you think something or somebody becomes more trustable if the repeat "Trust me, bro" to you? You don't achieve anything by asking "why should I trust them?", especially on a message board full of strangers. An dishonest person will repeat a thousand times that you can trust them, while an honest person probably will take offense.

>You don't achieve anything by asking "why should I trust them?"

They didn't ask that.

They said "Why should I use an email address to log into the system?" (rhetorical) and then gave an example of a service that also needs to verify the user has paid for the service (VPN), but does so without requiring accounts/in a more privacy-preserving way (Mullvad).

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by jmye »

puttycat wrote: post #56

Kagi is currently great. Can someone explain what makes it more resilient to AI-generated garbage than Google? (If at all)

Google is selling ads - their search is designed to show you whatever will push more ads. They not only have no incentive to hide SEO nonsense if it has advertising, they are clearly breaking search to push more advertising in the results.

So I suppose the answer is that Kagi (and DDG, and Neeva-RIP) has (or have) no incentive to include spam, while Google is heavily incentivized to not only show it, but to make it appealing and promote it.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by oktoberpaard »

karmakaze wrote: post #162

I don't want to pay for a search service and have 'range anxiety' and self-regulate my usage like I'm driving a 50km EV. Search is ubiquitous, make a flat rate subscription for normal people and a TOS that excludes non-human abuses. I don't pay for a per call mobile phone plan and I make way more searches.

The Pro plan is unlimited, though. It used to be capped until earlier this year.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by agotterer »

lhnz wrote: post #114
aryonoco wrote: post #17

Every once in a while, I looked for an alternative to Google. I have given them all a go, but none of them stayed as my default for more than a few days. Until Kagi. I absolutely did not think I would pay for a search engine. Especially as I've recently been on a quest to cut every unnecessary subscription. YouTube Premium is gone (thanks to 83/% family plan price hike). Half of my dozen or so domains are gone... you…

I'm also a happy Kagi user. There are only two reasons I still visit Google: 1. I'm based in the UK and often it shows me shops based in the US high up within my search results. 2. Sometimes I specifically like to visit Google Shopping to find the lowest prices online for an item I'm trying to buy. Once Kagi has improved these two areas I'll have no reason at all to ever visit Google (other than Google Maps or Google…

Number 1 is the main reason I haven’t made the switch yet. Google local search results are something I care about and use frequently. If Kagi solves local search, I’ll switch completely over to them.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by yoru-sulfur »

karmakaze wrote: post #162

I don't want to pay for a search service and have 'range anxiety' and self-regulate my usage like I'm driving a 50km EV. Search is ubiquitous, make a flat rate subscription for normal people and a TOS that excludes non-human abuses. I don't pay for a per call mobile phone plan and I make way more searches.

The limit has been removed from most paid plans since September

https://blog.kagi.com/unlimited-searches-for-10

> We’re thrilled to announce that unlimited search is now included in our $10/month Professional plan and our Ultimate, Family, and Duo plans.

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