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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by CamperBob2 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #118
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I will take your reservation if you have one. I have one, but am looking for a second. I can like the cars but not like Elon, very little nuance required in holding the position [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37949037

I don't think they're transferable.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by ang_cire »

inhumantsar wrote: post #18
xp84 wrote: post #3

I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

I couldn't agree more. Especially [Hyundai's recent sports car concept]( https://www.hyundai-n.com/en/models/rolling-lab/n-vision-74.... )

I would buy the crap out of that, but it will never see actual production looking like that. By the time it's done it'll be round just like every other car.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

owenpalmer wrote: post #98
1970-01-01 wrote: post #53

These launch countdowns are silly. Yes, you're going to be really cool the first year or so with that Cybertruck. But after you go to a party and five other people have one, (1,000,000+ reservations since 2019) it'll seem much less alluring.

Why is the countdown silly?

Because it's not a rocket launch operation, it's a announcement of price and specification. You won't magically own one when the countdown reaches 0. The romantic idea of 'launching' everything in tech is wearing a bit thin.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by blackguardx »

dgrin91 wrote: post #103
blackguardx wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sure folks knew it came in rolled form, but aren’t SpaceX and Tesla two separate companies?

Both run by Musk and they have a lot of folks who have swapped between the two. In general they have very close connections.

I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by manuelabeledo »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #112
andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #16

If it is a great car, but flops because it looks weird, that's a shame. If it's a terribly-built car, with reliability issues, and a super difficult production cycle, that's a shame, but for a different reason: you'd think after the snafu over the Model X, where certain features (the X-wing doors) were a production nightmare and ballooned the cost and tanked the reliability, they wouldn't make the same mistake again.…

FWIW, I have a model X and love the falcon wing doors. I’ve never had an issue with them, but I realize it’s a lot of complex moving parts so wouldn’t be surprised if I do. However: * they open fully in really tight spots where normal doors wouldn’t (although a mini van slide door would) * they look awesome (although a mini van slide door never would) We bought the car because the seats were the only ones that didn’t…

> they open fully in really tight spots where normal doors wouldn’t

Honest question, how do they work in vertically constrained spaces? Like subterranean parking lots. I appreciate the design, but I'm wondering if they have the same issues as some older wing doors.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by r3d0c »

concordDance wrote: post #157
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I continue to be puzzled by people's strong opinions on Elon. He's says dumb things on social media but there seem to be unusually strong sacred contagion effects from that. Buying petrol from Shell or cereal from Nestle? No problem. Buying a Model 3 from Tesla? No way! Honestly, I'd be surprised if there weren't a ton of people with the same views on immigration or trans issues or covid or whatever, each associated…

ah yes the "you live in society yet you criticize it" logic, you think i have a choice in the fact that we live in a fossil fuel car dependant society?

what a shallow unnuanced "critique", on brand for this website

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by adamrezich »

rglullis wrote: post #145
adamrezich wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this has nothing to do with it though. it's not that most normal people like him—it's just, most normal people don't spend any portion of their daily lives ruminating on how much they hate someone they've never met, who is much wealthier and more successful than themselves, to the point of repeatedly expressing said hate on the Internet... well, at least, since about 2020 or so.

The whole tabloid industry and morning TV programming would like to have a word with you...

why? I'm well under 60

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by adrianmonk »

thedaly wrote: post #15
fermentation wrote: post #12

Sure looks dangerous for pedestrians

No more or less than any other vehicle of similar weight.

Weight is not the main factor. Height/shape is much more important.

From https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2018/06/28/suvs-killi... :

> Hampton Clay Gabler, a professor in the department of biomedical engineering and mechanics at Virginia Tech, [ ... ] described the vulnerability of pedestrians when struck by an SUV as a geometry problem of sorts because SUVs and pickups tend to be tall compared with pedestrians and have a blunter front end. That positioning is more likely to put someone’s head or chest in line to be struck during the initial impact with a vehicle. “(Not to diminish leg injuries but) serious head and chest injuries can actually kill you,” Gabler said in a telephone interview.

(It is probably true, though, that most vehicles this heavy are tall as well, so weight would still be correlated to how dangerous a vehicle is.)

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by CamperBob2 »

adamrezich wrote: post #99
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

how common do you think this perspective is? outside of places like this one, of course. as far as I can tell, the average person's perspective of the guy likely hasn't changed much in the past few years at all.

The risk is that he will go much farther than he already has. If he comes out as a full-fledged neo-Nazi, which I wouldn't bet against given how erratically he has behaved lately, the value of Teslas on the used market will plummet.
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