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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#161
post #90

As a paying Kagi user, please don't waste my money on this when Firefox already exists.

As another paying Kagi user, I feel that this is not a waste of money. A browser that blocks tracking and advertisements by default is not only good for the users privacy and security, it directly hurts their #1 competitor. It's two birds with one stone.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#162
post #74

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Orion has actually triggered two kernel panics for me in the past week. It's easy on battery life though, so I've been using it still when I'm on the go.

Last time I had kernel panics was because I had hardware issues. I doubt Orion is causing this.

I actually think it has something to do with webkit and the fact that I use Quartz Debug to disable vsync at all times. I'll try to repro, but anecdotally speaking, my M1 MacBook Pro restarted when I was doing something in the Orion browser and spit out the typical kernel panic "Send to Apple" dialog upon reboot.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#164

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They are more rare one current versions of macOS. I’ve been using Mac’s for about 20 years and got them a lot a lot in the early days.

They used to happen all the time with Mac OS 9 and earlier, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen them with OSX/macOS.

I definitely had a corrupted CD-R backup that would kernel panic OS X, Windows 2000, and Linux, circa 2003.

Though, most of my OS X kernel panics were due to a GPU slowly going bad and randomly corrupting memory (both under OS X and Linux, when in a particular graphics mode).

QNX is the only OS that I've pushed hard and never seen a kernel panic. BeOS was nice in that my (userspace) ethernet driver would crash overnight most nights, and I'd wake up to a prompt saying "I'm going to restart the crashed driver? Okay?", but I could reliably kernel panic BeOS with some dodgy semaphore code in userspace.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#165

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It’s when the kernel (or drivers) run into a bug. Also known as blue screen of death on the windows side.

I never seen that on a Mac though.

It happens on Mac. It's when you get an infinite spinning beachball. Sometimes called beachball of death, but generally called kernel panic on Unix systems.

Most of the time with Macs it starts happening when you have hardware failure. It happens way more on Windows and Linux because of the much larger range of supported devices and drivers and the varying quality of the drivers for them. Most drivers running in Darwin as made by Apple. It's also the reason Microsoft created a certification program for device drivers for Windows.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#166
post #94

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Just to add, the main complaint I have had with it is the memory leaks/bloat. For example, I sometimes listen to music via youtube while working and after a couple hours the video player interface will become unresponsive, you click pause and it takes 5 seconds for the video to pause. This problem has been around for over a year, I remember seeing some similar posts on the support forum but it was kind of dismissive.…

This is also a problem with Safari. Leaving websites with a ton of dynamic content leads to the whole browser becoming unresponsive.

Never experienced it with Youtube in Safari but it happens 100% of the time in Orion.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#167
post #62
post #6

I've been using it for a while as my main browser and it suffers from all of the usual issues that early development stage browsers have: bugs, memory leaks. The bugs are nasty as well, I'm sometimes forced to switch back to Firefox: one example is once there was a build that crashed my browser when I opened a new tab in tree view. The extension support is in progress as well. UBlock Origin and BitWarden work, but YN…

Does if have a mobile version or can you sync with a mobile browser of another vendor? If not then it's not for me at this stage

Using it now.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#168
post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I had kernel panics was because I had hardware issues. I doubt Orion is causing this.

I actually think it has something to do with webkit and the fact that I use Quartz Debug to disable vsync at all times. I'll try to repro, but anecdotally speaking, my M1 MacBook Pro restarted when I was doing something in the Orion browser and spit out the typical kernel panic "Send to Apple" dialog upon reboot.

That is not kernel panic, just an app crash that was caught and handled by OS.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

#170
post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think it has something to do with webkit and the fact that I use Quartz Debug to disable vsync at all times. I'll try to repro, but anecdotally speaking, my M1 MacBook Pro restarted when I was doing something in the Orion browser and spit out the typical kernel panic "Send to Apple" dialog upon reboot.

That is not kernel panic, just an app crash that was caught and handled by OS.

TIL, I actually didn't realize that. I stand corrected.
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