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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by pyrale »

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

> What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009.

The power of endless money for advertising. Some users think it doesn't have that much impact, but being nudged on every other web page to make the switch is much more powerful than that nephew who talks to you about it once.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jacooper »

bilekas wrote: post #20

I love Firefox, but for some reason I can't pull away from Brave at the moment for my daily driver. Time will tell how long they can hold out against the changes that will eventually filter into chromium. I see the future of adblocking etc being put back to the network side, things like piHole should get a 'new' lease of life.

Brave won't be affected because brave shields aren't an extension and don't depend on the extension API.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by subtra3t »

bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

I use Vivaldi (and firefox before that) but a reason to use Edge is because it's supposedly very resource-efficient.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by zero_shift »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #88
nstart wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious what use case you are looking at for over here? I don't want to make any assumptions. I'm wondering if what you are looking for might be covered by the functionality of tab containers.

I wrote a command line tool which tells me "Now look at the following page" and opens it a browser window with the url. Works with Chrome, but not with Firefox.

Mac or Linux? I think on Mac "open" should Just Work, AFAIK

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ggjkvcxddd »

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

>I just don't understand why people would use Chrome.

Really? That seems hard to believe.

I stuck with FF until around 2016 or so before being compelled to switch. The performance was just very clearly worse than Chrome's at the time. Not sure what the state of things is now.

This is HN, so another huge reason to use Chrome is for the devtools, which I've always had a very good experience with and know pretty well. I've always found other browser devtools miserable to work with in the past, though I admit I haven't invested serious time into learning them.

All that said, the adblocking fiasco may well get me to try out FF again as my daily browser. But personally I had very clear reasons for abandoning it originally, it wasn't just cargo cutting

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by frameset »

nomilk wrote: post #73

FWIW I got annoyed with chrome's distracting home screen, and pondered how long it would take for a 10+ year chrome user to switch to firefox. The answer (on macOS) was 5 minutes. I was shocked how easy it was (and, frankly, how similar it was). When you first open firefox, it gives options to import all your chrome settings (including saved passwords etc). Super cool.

It's amusing to me how similar this comment is to the ones I heard in the mid to late 2000s from Internet Explorer users expressing surprise at just how easy to was to switch. :)

plus ça change!

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ruszki »

dale_glass wrote: post #120
erklik wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Firefox daily as my default, have roughly about 250 tabs open at this stage. I've not closed my browser in the last 6 or 7 months.. It's not crashed yet. Is it possible that it's some specific website your visiting?

There appear to be two specific issues for me. One is that I use Bluetooth headphones, and with my coming and going sometimes something gets into some weird state. Youtube freezes, and sometimes Firefox locks up and crashes as well. This is probably Pipewire's/Fedora's fault primarily, but Firefox gets caught in it. I also notice that a network drive getting stuck gets Firefox killed. Like if a NFS drive (which I'm n…

I’ve not seen a single application yet, which handles audio system failures properly when it happens during runtime, and most of them fails even when it happens before starting them. And it’s quite frequent unfortunately with my gazillion different Bluetooth and wired headsets across multiple laptops. It’s definitely not Firefox specific. It’s basically standard.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by theodric »

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

I moved to Chrome on first release not because of blind, trend-following foolishness, but because it performed significantly better than Firefox. It also didn't have the bug of occasionally losing things I told it to grab into the clipboard.

Poor performance is also what drove me back to Firefox. It still has the clipboard bug, however.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by izacus »

luc4 wrote: post #90
izacus wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, attacking the source of revenue that sustains a project is always a sensitive prospect. But then again, what's the alternative for Mozilla? In case of YouTube Premium we've clearly seen that even HN software engineers, demanding six figure pay, will refuse to pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work. Where does Mozilla find funding to sustain itself elsewhere?

What? We're not refusing to "pay other software companies a few bucks for their engineering work", we refuse to give in to the extortion attempts of a greedy multi-billion dollar company. I have and will keep financially supporting software I find useful. However, I do agree that it's questionable whether you can easily replace Google as a source of funding.

And in case of Mozilla it'll be the CEO's compensation, or engineering pay, or the fact that there was Pocket integration or something else will be made up to fuel angry refusal to support development of the browser.

There's always SOMETHING that's morally unacceptable to people who want it for free - I bet even full, total, complete submissions to whims of such community would not result in any significant revenue.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by vbezhenar »

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

I'm using Safari for day-to-day browsing (because I like its UI and iPhone sync) and I use Chrome for development. Firefox developer tools are not as convenient to me and Firefox does not support WebUSB which I need for some tasks. Also I always found Firefox filled with little irritating bugs when I tried to switch to it.

That said, I'm not convinced by this flashmob against Chrome. I like Google direction and Google philosophy behind Chrome, including its position on adblockers. So I hardly have any reason to switch to Firefox. Chromium is open source, Firefox is financed by Google, so it's hard for me to be convinced that Chrome somehow is bad. Especially when Firefox makes one bad move after another bad move (integrating weird third-party services within Browser, like Pocket or VPN or whatever).

And, yeah, I don't care about my privacy that much, especially not on the level to actively fight for it. I care about security, and that's about it.

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