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To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by tuukkah »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #156
tuukkah wrote: post #152

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I don't know what 1956 felt like in western Europe but the current situation definitely doesn't feel like peace even though the war is not fought in western Europe. The war is at the EU border with stray missiles and overreaching Russian attacks already having hit EU territory.

> Russian attacks already having hit EU territory. On 15 November 2022, a missile struck the territory of Poland at the village of Przewodów near the border with Ukraine, killing two people.[1][2][3] ... It was the first incident of a missile (vis-a-vis prior UAV incursions) fired from Ukrainian army[6] landing and exploding within NATO territory ... Initially Ukraine accused Russia of striking Poland,[9] while Unite…

Right, that falls under the "stray missiles" category.

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by dang »

thriftwy wrote: post #4

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> Typical Baltic attitude

Nationalistic swipes are not welcome here, regardless of which nations you have a problem with. We ban accounts that post like this (and you have a long history of posting like this), so please stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by dang »

boeingUH60 wrote: post #91
ceejayoz wrote: post #27

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> USSR was an union of Republics, of which Russian SSR was just the one. As the quote goes, "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." Pretending Russia didn't have a special status in the USSR doesn't win points in an argument, it just makes you look misinformed.

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Whoa, you can't post slurs or attacks like this to HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. We ban accounts that do this, so please don't do it again.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by dang »

1023bytes wrote: post #8
thriftwy wrote: post #4

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Typical Russian attitude - colonize other nations and act like they owe you

> Typical Russian attitude

Nationalistic swipes are not welcome here, regardless of which nations you have a problem with. We ban accounts that post like this, so please don't do it again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by rbanffy »

tuukkah wrote: post #141
chx wrote: post #106

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Almost all of us in Europe have never known anything but this peace so it almost feels a given. (I doubt a lot of readers are above eighty years old.) Yet a lot of kvetching about regulations happen and so it's good to remind people they have their own use.

Surely you mean this peace that ended when Russia started a full-scale invasion in Ukraine.

Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU.

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by rbanffy »

lhopki01 wrote: post #157
Waterluvian wrote: post #127

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Seems like the trick really is to deeply intertwine economies. It kind of feels similar to how monarchs tried to form lasting peace further back: inter-marry so that everyone is someone’s cousin they grew up with. Of course that didn’t exactly work perfectly.

Intertwined economies are part of it but I think people underestimate the importance of norms. EU leaders and ministers are regularly in meetings together. When there is a crisis now the reaction of all EU leaders is to hold a conference for them to hash out how to deal with the situation. This establishment of the norm of talking whenever there's an issue is very powerful.

This. A billion times this!

The principle that member nations have alignment and act (mostly) in unison.

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by rbanffy »

wolverine876 wrote: post #139
Waterluvian wrote: post #137

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Yeah my thoughts too. My feeling is that there won’t be some perfect solution that stops all wars. But that it was a very rational idea that may have stopped some. Indeed it would be interesting to see experts attempt to enumerate situations that were avoided through this approach. Though I’m not sure if that’s even possible given it requires a form of alternate reality synthesis which is all but pure bias. A statist…

> My feeling is that there won’t be some perfect solution that stops all wars. But that it was a very rational idea that may have stopped some. Yes, absolutely. Also, it generally makes us wealthier.

To say nothing about living longer and not being blown up. It's definitely a plus.

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by tuukkah »

rbanffy wrote: post #165
tuukkah wrote: post #141

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Surely you mean this peace that ended when Russia started a full-scale invasion in Ukraine.

Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU.

>> Almost all of us in Europe have never known anything but this peace

> Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU.

Europe != EU

Also, explosives from the Russian invasion in Ukraine have hit the territories of two EU countries: Poland and Romania.

Re: To free the Baltic grid, old technology is new again

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Post by halper »

type0 wrote: post #128
halper wrote: post #68

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Apologise to pick nits, but if it is not Turkey it is Türkiye. The former is perfectly fine in English.

I just hope they don't go back to Arabic alphabet, it would be a pain to write. Btw when will China start demanding we refer to it as Zhōngguó, or better yet 中國 /s

I think this illustrates the point well: if they were to write it in another script completely, English would adopt some transliteration of the name, i.e. an exonym.
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