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I have a huge respect for Navalny. They tried to murder him and after spending time in a German hospital he decided to go back knowing that they'll imprison him or try to kill him again.

>knowing I think the risk was huge (personally I thought 50-70% at the time), but not 99% or something. Also (in my opinion) people don't take into account that alternative was irrelevance in exile, just look at what happened with Kasparov's popularity inside Russia, and he was a prominent opposition activist in 2011-2012.

At the day he returned, he released his grandest and most damning documentary about Putin's $1B palace and the ways it was financed. Maybe he hoped people would rise up and overturn Putin with him leading the masses.

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> Because the Gaza footage is quite a mess. You will have hard times matching it with Ukraine footage. Sometimes, whole neighbourhoods of civilian high rises were levelled. Russia has literally deleted entire Ukrainian cities off the map, so this is a very strange paragraph to right. The only difference is in Ukraine the civilians were told to evacuate there homes when the Russians are near by, in Gaza they are told…

That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted.

> That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted.

Exactly, the difference isn't that in the Ukraine war that the Russians are being careful or precise, it's that the Ukrainian citizens can actually evacuate from the areas they are in.

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That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted.

> That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted. Exactly, the difference isn't that in the Ukraine war that the Russians are being careful or precise, it's that the Ukrainian citizens can actually evacuate from the areas they are in.

They won't be if Russia decided to start with a massive air strikes campaign before even starting ground offensive.

But that's not happened - not against the apartment blocks, anyway.

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> That is the difference. People in Gaza also have nowhere to go if they wanted. Exactly, the difference isn't that in the Ukraine war that the Russians are being careful or precise, it's that the Ukrainian citizens can actually evacuate from the areas they are in.

They won't be if Russia decided to start with a massive air strikes campaign before even starting ground offensive. But that's not happened - not against the apartment blocks, anyway.

Really? So you don't remember the bombing of Kyiv where corners of high rise apartment blocks were blown of by rockets and artillery.

Or Kharkiv where whole blocks of apartment buildings were demolished by indiscriminate shelling?

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They won't be if Russia decided to start with a massive air strikes campaign before even starting ground offensive. But that's not happened - not against the apartment blocks, anyway.

Really? So you don't remember the bombing of Kyiv where corners of high rise apartment blocks were blown of by rockets and artillery. Or Kharkiv where whole blocks of apartment buildings were demolished by indiscriminate shelling?

As a fact, no, I don't. The amount of carnage seen on Palestine photos and videos is not matched.

Of you read words written by press, you may get an impression that it is comparable. But you will struggle to find evidence backing it up. Because there is not.

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Really? So you don't remember the bombing of Kyiv where corners of high rise apartment blocks were blown of by rockets and artillery. Or Kharkiv where whole blocks of apartment buildings were demolished by indiscriminate shelling?

As a fact, no, I don't. The amount of carnage seen on Palestine photos and videos is not matched. Of you read words written by press, you may get an impression that it is comparable. But you will struggle to find evidence backing it up. Because there is not.

Alright please then: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-26/frightening-moment-a-...

Also you seem to be fixed on carnage inflicted to Palestine but not a word about the videos and images of beheadings and wanton murder of Israelis by the hamas terrorists. Why is that? Did not hamas unleash this round of violence by absolutely barbaric attacks?

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As a fact, no, I don't. The amount of carnage seen on Palestine photos and videos is not matched. Of you read words written by press, you may get an impression that it is comparable. But you will struggle to find evidence backing it up. Because there is not.

Alright please then: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-26/frightening-moment-a-... Also you seem to be fixed on carnage inflicted to Palestine but not a word about the videos and images of beheadings and wanton murder of Israelis by the hamas terrorists. Why is that? Did not hamas unleash this round of violence by absolutely barbaric attacks?

So on display is an apartment block being hit by "a missile". That would be our exhibit A.

However, the issue is that exhibit B is whole rows of apartment blocks hollowed out, visibly mangled or even levelled out by Israeli air strikes.

This was my original point.

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Really? So you don't remember the bombing of Kyiv where corners of high rise apartment blocks were blown of by rockets and artillery. Or Kharkiv where whole blocks of apartment buildings were demolished by indiscriminate shelling?

As a fact, no, I don't. The amount of carnage seen on Palestine photos and videos is not matched. Of you read words written by press, you may get an impression that it is comparable. But you will struggle to find evidence backing it up. Because there is not.

> As a fact, no, I don't. The amount of carnage seen on Palestine photos and videos is not matched.

You’re not looking very hard then.

The carnage is identical the Russians have literally leveled entire cities in Ukraine, I dare say the Russians have leveled an area that is overall larger then Gaza in its entirety.

This is before we get to the especially brutal parts of Russias war like when they launched an anti ship missile at a shopping centre.

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Alright please then: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-26/frightening-moment-a-... Also you seem to be fixed on carnage inflicted to Palestine but not a word about the videos and images of beheadings and wanton murder of Israelis by the hamas terrorists. Why is that? Did not hamas unleash this round of violence by absolutely barbaric attacks?

So on display is an apartment block being hit by "a missile". That would be our exhibit A. However, the issue is that exhibit B is whole rows of apartment blocks hollowed out, visibly mangled or even levelled out by Israeli air strikes. This was my original point.

> However, the issue is that exhibit B is whole rows of apartment blocks hollowed out, visibly mangled or even levelled out by Israeli air strikes.

It’s like your exactly describing what the Russians did to Bakhmut.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/may/18/stark-b...

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