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Post by mvdtnz »

Spivak wrote: post #115
mvdtnz wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just rationalising. You know it's not a defensible position.

Sure it is, you're not even involved in the transaction. Just because someone pays Google to show an ad doesn't mean you have to look at it. USPS is funded by ads going through the mail and I throw them straight in the trash without remorse. I bet you do too. Bet you don't feel guilt about going to the bathroom or fast-forwarding your DVR during commercials either. Ad space is sold on the possibility that someone wil…

At no point did I suggest people should be forced to view ads.

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Post by ThrustVectoring »

BD103 wrote: post #81
aftbit wrote: post #36

What about using yt-dlp to watch videos?

Downloading the videos is always an option, but I’ve found it’s too much of a hassle when browsing content. It works really well when you’re planning on going offline, though!

I haven't set it up yet, but youtube channels have RSS feeds so programmatically feeding a list of channels into a watch-later folder should be straightforward.

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Post by ThrustVectoring »

macinjosh wrote: post #78

I homelab a huggin instance to scrape my favorite channels for new videos and then send them to a ytdl like program. Then it dumps them in Jellyfin. No ads, and no rabbit holes :)

why is this necessary when youtube channels have RSS feeds?

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Post by [deleted] »

gruez wrote: post #102
jona-f wrote: post #80

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We treat google how they treat us, as exploitive as possible.

All this performative righteousness is only going to end up hurting your cause in the long term. If a major site offers an ad-free option, and people refuse to take it, what does it tell the executives? What does it tell other publishers who are considering their monetization options? How do you think a business should respond to users that neither refuse to watch ads nor pay, can't be bargained with (see above), but…

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Post by Diti »

mvdtnz wrote: post #92
_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

Mate if you get so much value from YouTube that you'll jump through these hoops just to use it without ads, why not just subscribe to premium? Personally it's by far my most bang-for-buck service.

I don’t know about OP, but, personally, the reason I don’t subscribe to premium is because they get aggressive on ads on purpose (waves of unskippable ads followed by a YouTube Premium subscription request the day after), which I believe is a dark pattern.

I would have been okay with paying for a subscription if it was to support the website or its creators – but I take manipulation attempts very badly.

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Post by vluis »

mvdtnz wrote: post #92
_huayra_ wrote: post #14

Maybe it's just A/B testing, but I got the "3 strikes and no more video playback" thing, which this DOM element blocking doesn't work around it seems :( After years of procrastinating, I'm finally gonna get around to setting up a basic homelab to run pihole. Thanks, youtube execs and bean counters, for kicking my lazy ass into gear on this! In a way, I kinda wish that ads worked as well as youtube suggestions. If one…

Mate if you get so much value from YouTube that you'll jump through these hoops just to use it without ads, why not just subscribe to premium? Personally it's by far my most bang-for-buck service.

I think I've more than paid off my YT usage with how much personal data google has stolen/misused from me over the years.

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Post by macinjosh »

hotnfresh wrote: post #134
macinjosh wrote: post #78

I homelab a huggin instance to scrape my favorite channels for new videos and then send them to a ytdl like program. Then it dumps them in Jellyfin. No ads, and no rabbit holes :)

How are you organizing them in Jellyfin? Some popular ones have tvdb entries so it’s easy to just treat them as tv shows, but the rest are a problem. I tried the somewhat-neglected Youtube library-type plugin for it a while back, and don’t remember exactly what was wrong, but recall finding it worse than nothing.

I don’t, I just put them in their own library and then watch and delete as they come in, kinda like a news feed

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Post by acdha »

hkt wrote: post #155
gruez wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point of blocking ads when they're already not present? Or are you saying that we should block ads and refuse to pay? How is that sustainable in the long term? If you're against ads, shouldn't you support monetization models that don't involve ads?

Maybe we don't want the business models of data hoarding multibillion dollar corporations to be sustainable. Maybe there are good alternatives that don't rely so much on exploitative practices. Just a thought.

Those are great reasons not to use YouTube. If you’re worried about data mining, your ad blocker has no effect there – you have to stop using YouTube if that bothers you.

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Post by epgui »

Diti wrote: post #165
mvdtnz wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mate if you get so much value from YouTube that you'll jump through these hoops just to use it without ads, why not just subscribe to premium? Personally it's by far my most bang-for-buck service.

I don’t know about OP, but, personally, the reason I don’t subscribe to premium is because they get aggressive on ads on purpose (waves of unskippable ads followed by a YouTube Premium subscription request the day after), which I believe is a dark pattern. I would have been okay with paying for a subscription if it was to support the website or its creators – but I take manipulation attempts very badly.

+1

I wouldn’t even notice the subscription costs, but at this point Google has only succeeded in alienating me. I have disproportionately negative feelings about this.

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