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Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
Sure, yet every other country in the world does it. So impossible.
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Stockholm syndrome talking. Displaying THE PRICE on products is so amazingly basic that it's always mind blowing seeing Americans think this is a complicated question. It's not. If I have to pay 5 dollars at checkout THEN THE PRICE IS FIVE DOLLARS.
It might be somewhat complicated when every town has a different tax rate.
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The good thing is that prices (in stores) are set in the store. The labels are most likely little e-ink displays. There's absolutely no reason to not show the final price there aside from wanting the advertised price to be lower than it actually is. The same chocolate might have a different price depending on the store I go to as well and that doesn't seem to be a problem at all.
> The labels are most likely little e-ink displays. I have literally never seen e-ink price labels in a store in the US. I'm sure they exist, but I would bet are present in fewer than 1% of stores here.
They should ban tipping too.
Everyone always says this, and it's basically never going to happen, at least in the US. Tons of places have tried to ban tipping and just include the service in the cost of the item. They nearly always revert because the best workers leave to make more money at a tipping joint.
Also, how are the tipped staff the "best workers"? They're just servers. All they have to do is take an order. It's incredible how much money they expect for this, when it's something that would be more efficiently done with an iPad. In US restaurants, they're even too lazy to bring the food for you; I guess they're too busy trying to act like the customer's new best friend.
We could learn from for example Japan where there is no cents and all fees included so 5000 Yen is 5000 yen no tip no tax no fees no cents it's really cortisol reducing.
1 US cent = ~1.5 JPY. Putting the decimal point a couple digits over doesn't really change anything. If you really want to, you can tell people that you spent "100 cents" instead of "1 dollar". They'll probably look at you funny, though.
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Like I said, you can have a debate about how taxes are displayed on a price list. I respectfully disagree on solely including them in the price and making them "hidden". Calling them out is a good reminder of exactly how much you are paying for government services. For example, the one common tax in the US that is hidden in the price is tax on gasoline. I think it would be better to specifically call this out, especi…
Even if by law the post-tax price is shown, is there any law preventing showing the pre-tax price also? Surely not. Seems to me giving people a shock at the checkout is a particularly evil way of making taxes explicit. It isn't like the taxes aren't broken down on EU receipts for those who care; in fact it's quite explicit.
In the EU the receipt must show what amount of the price was VAT.
This is so that companies can deduct the VAT in taxation (basically only the final consumer of the product/service pays VAT. Everyone else in the chain can deduct it in taxation)
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I guess tips are technically not 'unavoidable'.
Yes, I understand. But if you want to come to the same restaurant again and you don't tip, it may be a problem. Imagine Amazon not wanting to do business with you because you didn't add extra X% to your previous purchase.
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Including taxes in the sticker price is bad. It allows the government to quietly increase taxes without people noticing. Sales taxes are in general regressive and harm lower-income people the most, so they should be visible and attributable to government.
> Including taxes in the sticker price is bad. It allows the government to quietly increase taxes without people noticing. Oh please. When taxes go up, people notice. In California, new taxes have to be approved directly by voters, even. If you choose not to be civically engaged enough to notice new taxes, that's your problem. This is the same dumb argument people use for not allowing the IRS to send us a pre-filled…
Prop 218 [1] is unique to California.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_California_Proposition_21...
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Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
I never understand this argument at all. Your shops have computers with label printers, right? At the Co-op supermarket in our little UK town (population 3000) they’ve even just replaced the shelf price tickets with tiny colour displays.
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