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Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

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I hate A/B testing. Puts the feedback and protest mechanism working on those who complain the most. If you are a techie, you are forced to yell or silent quit the website, and most of the times I really don't have the time to waste yelling.

My team rely on a/b testing. It’s the only way we can test whether the tweaks in our ML model produce positive results or not. Playing devils advocate here I think it’s actually a good idea that YT are testing this. They need to understand how big of a negative impact this would be if released. If enough users hate this change as you and I suspect then hopefully YT see these results in their tests and revisit their a…

I'd prefer Google to impose those changes on 100% of it users so it could generate outrage and incentivize people to jump ship, instead of enabling them to push it slowly and cooking everyone without them noticing.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

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My team rely on a/b testing. It’s the only way we can test whether the tweaks in our ML model produce positive results or not. Playing devils advocate here I think it’s actually a good idea that YT are testing this. They need to understand how big of a negative impact this would be if released. If enough users hate this change as you and I suspect then hopefully YT see these results in their tests and revisit their a…

I'd prefer Google to impose those changes on 100% of it users so it could generate outrage and incentivize people to jump ship, instead of enabling them to push it slowly and cooking everyone without them noticing.

Welcome to capitalism my friend

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#163
Simply put, "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube" means that YouTube does not allow users to block ads while using their platform.

This policy is in place to ensure that YouTube can continue to provide free access to their site and services to billions of users worldwide.

If you are seeing the message "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube" while trying to watch videos, there are a few things you can do to fix the issue.

Method 1: Use The Brave Browser

Method 2: Use UBlock Origin

Method 3: Use Anti-Adblock Killer Script

Method 4: Use Third-Party YouTube Apps

For detailed explanation for each method check: https://wealthquint.com/bypass-ad-blockers-are-not-allowed-o...

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#165
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Ah, that's why the videos stopped working for me at home over PiHole.

Was a solution finally built to block YT ads with PiHole? I haven’t used it in a year or two and last I heard it was very hard / impossible to block YT ads because (like Facebook and Instagram) the ads are all served from the YT domain. How did you do it? Can you link to a guide or docs to do it?

I didn't. What broke was now embedded videos (at least in iOS Safari) no longer work and I have to click to see them in the app.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

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The insidious aspect of this is the bait and switch YouTube did to consolidate their monopoly. A huge amount of videos were uploaded under the (idealistic and misguided) pretence they would be freely accessible without ads and so on. Had the YT UX been this way the whole time then the online video landscape would be much more competitive today.

This scam has happened with many sites and apps (Instagram). Build community and then sell it.

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Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#167

The insidious aspect of this is the bait and switch YouTube did to consolidate their monopoly. A huge amount of videos were uploaded under the (idealistic and misguided) pretence they would be freely accessible without ads and so on. Had the YT UX been this way the whole time then the online video landscape would be much more competitive today.

Hmm... the biggest category on YouTube is music, which until a colossal lawsuit was all pirated. It has and was built on piracy. Maybe you odn't believe me because it's "different" in your opinion today. Look anywhere else in the world, it's piracy dude. For example, here's a search for "seinfeld s01e03" for video lengths 10-30m on Bilibili: https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=seinfeld+s01e03&from... I don't know…

> It has and was built on piracy.

Shiver me timbers, buckaroo. Won't someone think about the digital robber baron tycoons?

Most of the internet was built with public dollars and content is engaged with (not necessarily hosted) generally non-commercially. If we look at total harm, content users tend to get the worst of it either by having to wade through malevolent ads or user hostile design. Yet, we collectively put up with it because we recognize the Internet is not a zero-sum game. Tay-tay is making enough money from the free marketing channels the Internet enables, she doesn't need more from a Youtube stream.

Re: Tell HN: "Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube”

#168
post #25

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Sponsorblock already exists as infrastructure to slice out ads embedded into the video streams themselves. Of course, the sponsor segments weren't put there by youtube, but the same (or similar) solutions would apply if they were. It's much easier for anything non-live.

Sponsorblock would be easy to work around if ad-breaks were randomly selected. Whenever you upload a video YT could process the video and "search" for good ad-break locations, at display time client bits get pushed ads randomly, making time-code blocking useless. They could even upsell to content creators by giving them the means to dynamically replace sponsors in old videos using the same tech, maybe with some knobs…

I guess something could detect if the frame shown is a frame from the video and if not skip
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