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Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by bushbaba »

justapassenger wrote: post #120
nerdjon wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't really matter how many people were affected, the point is that people made an investment (and not a small one) and its being shut down. And it isn't like this is the first hardware that Google has abandoned, but they turn it into ewaste since it's tied to the cloud.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

They sold units recently no. So there’s some ppl who might have only gotten a few years of usage

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by cush »

mmkos wrote: post #127

It's about time we had legislation (at least in the EU) that mandated an option to be able to use physical products in an offline mode. Features that require a connection to the Internet should only be an augmentation at most and not the core without which the product cannot work.

This is an incredible idea. It’s very much like mandating the recyclability of electronics but goes one step further - enforcing the reusability of electronics. It would be a game changer for consumer and environmental protection. Literal tonnes of e-wasted iPhones would instead become offline music/game devices.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by crazygringo »

cush wrote: post #160

A week after Microsoft announces their new version of Surface Hub https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/surface-it-pro-blog/s...

That's so strange. I wonder what makes this product category seem like a good investment for Microsoft but not for Google? Since it occupies the same functional role in the office suite. Not to mention Google had the additional market of schools where it integrated seamlessly with Chromebooks.

It's very hard to understand why they'd be going in such different directions.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by moate »

astrodust wrote: post #125
justapassenger wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

Imagine if you had to purchase new furniture every eight years for no reason other than the vendor decided to render it useless.

PLEASE STOP GIVING CAPITALISTS IDEAS!

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by unsui »

nerdjon wrote: post #101

How people continue to trust buying anything from Google is just beyond me. I am glad that they are doing something for schools, but this is just ridiculous. Shutting down a free service that you didn't have to buy into, fine whatever. It still sucks but at least you didn't invest in a platform. But if you are going to make a physical device you cannot treat it like you treat everything else.

Responding to some of the comments saying that jamboard had a good run and people shouldn't be outraged that google made a decision in their own interest...

Everybody remembers the old saying, "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM".

Well, there should be a reciprocal saying: "Anybody who ever buys google should be fired".

If the lesson here is "caveat emptor", then the real lesson is this: don't buy google.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by bushbaba »

Almondsetat wrote: post #123
justapassenger wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

I'm sure the Jamboard service contains such top secret and critical code that it could never be open sourced in order for those devices to keep functioning with a proxy sever, no no no.

Googles backends are all proprietary solutions. So you’d need to open source a huge swath of google code. Much of which has assumptions of running in Google’s DCs.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by crazygringo »

killjoywashere wrote: post #144

We have a few of these in our office. The experience is decent, but, man, I really miss chalkboards. I just don't find whiteboards, physical or virtual, as compelling. I actually make some use of the Jamboard app in meetings occasionally, but usually I'm at a desk with my feet up, using a tablet to draw while everyone else is remote. Not only has Jamboard never been a first-class citizen, no whiteboard is a first-cla…

The problem with chalkboards in a meeting, assuming you've set up a dedicated camera for it, is that remote participants can't draw on it.

When I worked at a place with Jamboards, it was actually super useful doing meetings with virtual post-it notes that remote participants could move around. And it meant the meeting's facilitator could be remote as well.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by samtheprogram »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #154
killjoywashere wrote: post #144

We have a few of these in our office. The experience is decent, but, man, I really miss chalkboards. I just don't find whiteboards, physical or virtual, as compelling. I actually make some use of the Jamboard app in meetings occasionally, but usually I'm at a desk with my feet up, using a tablet to draw while everyone else is remote. Not only has Jamboard never been a first-class citizen, no whiteboard is a first-cla…

I worked in offices that had whiteboards and I never found anybody used them

Workplace culture? When we were in the office, whiteboards were used at least weekly.

A bit different now with remote-first or hybrid... If one person isn't in the office, it's basically dead in the water.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by governmentdude »

endisneigh wrote: post #138
jasonjayr wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can still run DOS 6.22 right now . Probably even older software. In fact, just about most 'owned' software that does not depend on the cloud can be run for ever. Especially software that was sold as a perpetual license.

Jamboard inherently required the cloud, so I'm not sure what your point is.

But google isn't retiring their cloud. They're just kicking the jamboards off it. The jamboards are computers capable of doing local compute. There's no hardware limitation preventing them from being a lot more useful.

What we need is longer minimum warranties for electronics, with support and security fixes for 10+ years.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by HideousKojima »

justrealist wrote: post #106

I can predict the whining already, but 8 years is really not a short lifespan for a product. That's an honest effort at getting a market, which failed. That's life.

Stop defending the billion dollar corporations when they make expensive hardware into expensive paperweights.

Google could easily open source the software needed to run this without their cloud services.

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