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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by ftxbro »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #127
dmd wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't believe LLMs are "conscious", but I also don't know what that means, and I have yet to see a definition of "statistically guessing next word" that cannot be applied to what a human brain does to generate the next word.

I believe that the distinguishing factor between what an LLM and a human brain do to generate the next word is that the human brain expresses intentionality originating from inner states and future expectations. As I type this comment I'm sure one could argue that the biological neural networks in my brain are choosing the next word based on statistical guessing, and that the initial prompt was your initial comment.…

That other stuff is the easy part if the generative language modeling is good enough. Imagine just putting it in a loop with an input track, an output track, and an internal monologue track. Wrappers like autogpt can almost do this already but the generative language modeling isn't quite powerful enough yet to make it smart enough to do unsupervised scientific research.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by plutoh28 »

scop wrote: post #147
plutoh28 wrote: post #134

This is the dagger that will make online schooling unviable. ChatGPT already made it so that you could easily copy & paste any full-text questions and receive an answer with 90% accuracy. The only flaw was that problems that also used diagrams or figures would be out of the domain of ChatGPT. With image support, students could just take screenshots or document scans and have ChatGPT give them a valid answer. From wha…

Another option is that this doesn't replace the student's work, but the teacher's. The single greatest use I have found for ChatGPT is in educating myself on various topics, hosting a socratic seminar where I am questioning ChatGPT in order to learn about X. Of course this could radically change a student's ability to generate homework etc, but this could also radically change how the student learns in the first plac…

Absolutely ChatGPT is a great learning tool if in the right hands. The issue is that students with a genuine interest in learning are a minority. The majority would rather use ChatGPT to cheat through their class work and get an easy A rather then exhaust the effort to chat and learn for their own sake.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by epolanski »

david-gpu wrote: post #117
epolanski wrote: post #72

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When my brain generates the next wurd I'm perfectly capable of taking decisions of misspelling "word" for "wurd", LLMs can't make such reasonings unless instructed to act like that.

Why would I want an AI assistant to have agency? I want them to help me, not to further their personal goals. In fact, I don't want them to have personal goals other than helping people.

I didn't say it should have one, I'm saying that LLMs statistically finding the next bit of information aren't really making decisions, which is to counter-argue the fact that it's not different from how we reason.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by skepticATX »

clbrmbr wrote: post #33
clbrmbr wrote: post #18

The thought of my children being put to bed by a machine is horrifying. Then again, perhaps this is better than many kids have. Shudder.

And then the wedding speech. What are they thinking over there at OpenAI? This is supposed to be a productivity enhancer, not a way to outsource the most meaningful applications of human language…

> What are they thinking over there at OpenAI?

I know this is rhetorical, but luckily we don't have to speculate. OpenAI filters for a very specific philosophy when hiring, and they don't try to hide it.

This is not me passing judgement on whether said philosophy is right or wrong, but it does exist and it's not hidden.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by mhb »

JTon wrote: post #119
mhb wrote: post #90

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Try it. There's a world of difference.

In general or for this specific application (linking primary sources)?

In general. I don't know whether it's better at providing sources.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by joshstrange »

Closi wrote: post #150
joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

They have gone from being a niche research company to being (probably) the fastest growing start-up in history. I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

> I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally.

This is my best guess as well, they are rocketing down the interstate at 200mph and just trying to keep the wheels on the car. When you're absolutely killing it I guess making X% more by being better at messaging just isn't worth it since to do that you'd have to take someone off something potentially more critical. Still makes me a little sad though.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by make3 »

epolanski wrote: post #60

I'm following on trying to understand how close I am to developing my personal coding assistant I can speak with. Doesn't really need to do much besides writing down my tasks/todos and updating them, occasionally maybe provide feedback or write a code snippet. This all seems in the current capabilities of OpenAI's offering. Sadly voice chat is still not available on PC where I do my development.

I mean the tools are 100% there to do this and have been fit a while

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by epolanski »

anotherpaulg wrote: post #131
epolanski wrote: post #60

I'm following on trying to understand how close I am to developing my personal coding assistant I can speak with. Doesn't really need to do much besides writing down my tasks/todos and updating them, occasionally maybe provide feedback or write a code snippet. This all seems in the current capabilities of OpenAI's offering. Sadly voice chat is still not available on PC where I do my development.

My open source AI coding tool aider has had voice-to-code for awhile: https://aider.chat/docs/voice.html

Very interesting effort, will give it a run!

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by jve »

JTon wrote: post #119
mhb wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try it. There's a world of difference.

In general or for this specific application (linking primary sources)?

Bing Chat for me, when mostly searching IT technical or programming stuff sometimes gives junk urls, sometimes gives some real valuable urls.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by FeepingCreature »

pc_edwin wrote: post #23

I just don't understand how they can package all of this for $20/m. Is compute really that cheap at scale? I also wonder how Apple (& Google) is going be able to provide this for free? I would love to be fly in the meetings they have about this, imagine all the innovators dilemma like discussions they'd be forced to have (we have to do this vs this will eat up our margins). This might be a little out there but I thin…

I think answering lots of queries in parallel can be a lot cheaper than answering them one at a time.
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