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The end of cool small cars

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Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by simfree »

pandaman wrote: post #147
arethuza wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So apart from being a bit higher up - what is the benefit of the SUV? Edit: It's a question I keep asking myself, my wife still has a SUV...

It's not a bit higher up, it's quite a lot and makes a lot of difference in adverse weather (like getting water in your engine or not getting water in there and driving safely through a flash flood, for example). Also the visibility is quite different, especially at night, due to low beams covering much less space in front of a low car [1][2]. The higher stance allows for large tires and smoother ride. Getting in and…

Sounds like the low beams are mis-aimed if they are generating a much larger light pool and likely dazzling other drivers on the road at night.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by mitch3x3 »

hbn wrote: post #95

I've always driven a small car and it's what I prefer to drive. They're easy to handle, I like being able to not worry as much about navigating tight curbs, and fit into smaller or "small car only" parking spaces, etc. But man, sometimes I pull up beside one of these absurdly huge modern trucks and I'm basically just staring at their wheels. It's terrifying to think if I collided head-on with one of these, they'd pro…

I ended up having replace a compact with a crossover mainly to stop getting blinded by headlights at night time. It was getting way too dangerous. I tinted the back window, but was still getting blinded in the side mirrors.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by reverius42 »

adhesive_wombat wrote: post #51
dybber wrote: post #24

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Often these big cars even have a quite small trunk, e.g. compared to a station wagon. Soon though, a few car makers will release electric station wagons (e.g. Peugeot e-308). Many danes already drives station wagons, so I hope people will start buying those kind of cars instead of SUV's.

Apparently, according to a guy trying to put in a higher offer on a car already sold, used estate cars in the UK are now selling at a premium because people who actually want such a car for its practical benefits, including farmers (a battered Volvo V70 and then XC70, which isn't a crossover like the XC60[1], is a common sight on a farm) struggle to find them because the market is full of shiny "wank tanks" with the…

There’s also the C40; perhaps less ridiculous?

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by leokennis »

Forgotthepass8 wrote: post #154
leokennis wrote: post #101

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Except for some edge cases, what else is the use of a 3,000kg 6m truck when it is transporting between 1 and 4 people except to compensate?

They survive the crash.

Yes. And my 8 year old son on his bike dies. Serves him right, he should’ve gotten himself one of those RAM 1500’s as well.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by leokennis »

eindiran wrote: post #135
leokennis wrote: post #121

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I disagree. At least in The Netherlands, these vehicles are a classic “mid life crisis mobile”. People compensating for something by buying an outrageous vehicle. So the “compensating joke” I’m making is in my opinion at least 50% truth.

I am not making a claim about the truthiness of the "joke". I'm saying it's old, not funny, and frankly annoying. And, to be clear, I have no stake in defending large vehicle ownership; I'm just saying you will elicit more agreement and fewer eye-rolls if you drop the "compensating" joke.

I still disagree.

A completely factual statement like “my daily observations support the theory that sales of large pick-up trucks in The Netherlands have grown, while I can not observe a matching growth in business development that could explain the increased need for such vehicles” would be read by exactly no one.

A joke based in truth catches people’s attention and draws them to read essentially the same thing I said above.

A rhetorical device, sure. But we are on a discussion forum here, not in an economics paper.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by leokennis »

faeriechangling wrote: post #148
leokennis wrote: post #121

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I disagree. At least in The Netherlands, these vehicles are a classic “mid life crisis mobile”. People compensating for something by buying an outrageous vehicle. So the “compensating joke” I’m making is in my opinion at least 50% truth.

It’s just wrong. If I think of men likely to have a micropenis it’s going to correlate strongly with genetic or developmental issues. Not the things exactly with track with being able to afford or make great use of some imposing pickup truck. I know a family where every man is built like a brick shithouse and ain’t compensating for shit and every man has owned at least one truck. Big vehicles fit big people and carry…

I’m not sure I understand your point. But yes, if you have a construction company and you buy a huge pick-up I still think you might be better off with a van but at least I see your point in buying the pick-up. If you are a family of 4 whose biggest load is the weekly groceries, I absolutely think you are not entitled to drive around a tank-like behemoth, especially on the small roads in Dutch communities.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by mdekkers »

leokennis wrote: post #166
faeriechangling wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s just wrong. If I think of men likely to have a micropenis it’s going to correlate strongly with genetic or developmental issues. Not the things exactly with track with being able to afford or make great use of some imposing pickup truck. I know a family where every man is built like a brick shithouse and ain’t compensating for shit and every man has owned at least one truck. Big vehicles fit big people and carry…

I’m not sure I understand your point. But yes, if you have a construction company and you buy a huge pick-up I still think you might be better off with a van but at least I see your point in buying the pick-up. If you are a family of 4 whose biggest load is the weekly groceries, I absolutely think you are not entitled to drive around a tank-like behemoth, especially on the small roads in Dutch communities.

> I’m not sure I understand your point.

I’m pretty sure you do, because the poster is pretty specific. You make statements around micropenises and the required compensation for them that are incredibly toxic. The whole meme is dead, yet you persist in continuing with it. The poster is not questioning your assessment of the suitability of owning these vehicles, as you are no doubt aware, they are questioning your use of toxic language to make your point.

There are better and more eloquent ways of making your point. There is no need to shame a bunch of people that are born a certain way. Do you also make blanket statements about people of colour? LGBTQ+ folk?

Be a better human.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by mdekkers »

leokennis wrote: post #165
eindiran wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not making a claim about the truthiness of the "joke". I'm saying it's old, not funny, and frankly annoying. And, to be clear, I have no stake in defending large vehicle ownership; I'm just saying you will elicit more agreement and fewer eye-rolls if you drop the "compensating" joke.

I still disagree. A completely factual statement like “my daily observations support the theory that sales of large pick-up trucks in The Netherlands have grown, while I can not observe a matching growth in business development that could explain the increased need for such vehicles” would be read by exactly no one. A joke based in truth catches people’s attention and draws them to read essentially the same thing I s…

> I still disagree.

Have you measured the penis size of every large vehicle owner, published your findings, and had them peer reviewed?

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by leokennis »

mdekkers wrote: post #167
leokennis wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure I understand your point. But yes, if you have a construction company and you buy a huge pick-up I still think you might be better off with a van but at least I see your point in buying the pick-up. If you are a family of 4 whose biggest load is the weekly groceries, I absolutely think you are not entitled to drive around a tank-like behemoth, especially on the small roads in Dutch communities.

> I’m not sure I understand your point. I’m pretty sure you do, because the poster is pretty specific. You make statements around micropenises and the required compensation for them that are incredibly toxic. The whole meme is dead, yet you persist in continuing with it. The poster is not questioning your assessment of the suitability of owning these vehicles, as you are no doubt aware, they are questioning your use…

This will be my final reaction in this thread. I’m only shaming people who for no reason buy an unreasonable vehicle thereby actively destroying our climate and risking our children’s life.

Re: The end of cool small cars

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Post by mdekkers »

leokennis wrote: post #169
mdekkers wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m not sure I understand your point. I’m pretty sure you do, because the poster is pretty specific. You make statements around micropenises and the required compensation for them that are incredibly toxic. The whole meme is dead, yet you persist in continuing with it. The poster is not questioning your assessment of the suitability of owning these vehicles, as you are no doubt aware, they are questioning your use…

This will be my final reaction in this thread. I’m only shaming people who for no reason buy an unreasonable vehicle thereby actively destroying our climate and risking our children’s life.

The fact you use penis size to shame people, and refuse to see how that is wrong says more about you as a human than is does about people buying the cars you decry.
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