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Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by jeroenhd »

neals wrote: post #13

I've always found the Firefox devtools be a little less 'quality of life' like. Just my opinion. Haven't used it in a few years. But for me, I just live in devtools, you know. As most of you here, probably. Opinions?

I prefer the Firefox dev tools, except for one thing: Chrome's websocket debugger is better. Firefox seems to miss some websocket messages and sometimes they don't show up at all for me.

The CSS dev tools for things like grids and flex in the Firefox dev tools are much better than Chrome's. The debugger is a tad slower if you need to prettify obfuscated Javascript but both do a good enough job at it.

I also prefer the theme Firefox applies to the dev tools, they feel more native and less like something slapped onto the browser.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by phs2501 »

adithyassekhar wrote: post #121

You can't go back a page using both Alt (+ Left Arrow) keys on Firefox. Only with the left Alt key, which is super uncomfortable.

Is this an AltGr thing? On my (US, in Linux) keyboard right-alt-left-arrow works fine, and I'm pretty sure I do the same thing in Windows (again, US keyboard layout).

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by retrocryptid »

nerdponx wrote: post #86
littlestymaar wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you have different bookmarks, extensions, and maybe even a different theme (so you know you're using the right window) > The answer is: you can't. Because containers and profiles are different things. If that's what you need then just use Firefox profiles then! The thing is, most people don't need that, and containers offert better ergonomics for the majority use-case (like the one described in the post). B…

I would use Firefox profiles if it were easier.

Why are they not easy? You go to "about:profiles" and click the "launch profile in new browser." You don't have to install an extension or remember to start-up with a particular command line option.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by retrocryptid »

jklinger410 wrote: post #12
matsemann wrote: post #4

I feel this article almost do more harm than good. It paints a picture that you need to "sacrifice" something to use Fx and lists various "problems". For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve. Ne…

> For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Except for those of us with profile specific extensions, which containers don't help with at all.

Check back in in a couple of years when the containers extension has been deprecated.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by jeroenhd »

veave wrote: post #45

It's your font rendering that looks weird, maybe you have a BGR monitor?

The settings provided do indicate that Firefox has picked a different default subpixel layout than what the monitor has.

This can be because of a bug in autodetection but it can also happen when you orient your monitor vertically, which many people do with secondary monitors.

Assuming the author has set up ClearType right on their computer, I believe this may be a Firefox bug. ClearType on Windows should take care of this stuff already.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by retrocryptid »

deadbunny wrote: post #74
dataflow wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never had problems with font rendering Okay, so what's the logical conclusion here? That the person is lying? The font rendering is very much off, some people just don't notice or don't care. Denying something others see with their own eyes doesn't help anybody.

As a Firefox user I had to open Chrome to check this to see if I had just been living with bad font rendering for the last 20 years. Firefox uses my system defined default fonts (DejaVu Sans, DejaVu Serif, Hack) where Chrome completely ignores the system fonts. IMO using the system defaults is the correct action here. Anyway after manually configuring Chrome to use the system defaults they look identical to me: Firef…

Are you using macOS, Windows or Linux? There are (mostly subtle) differences between these platforms which may expose more differences between fonts. I get it that it doesn't look different on your system, but I'm not discounting the possibility that the OS platform can also affect rendering.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by jeroenhd »

hospitalJail wrote: post #83

I havent been able to uninstall Chrome. Everyone makes sure they test their website for Chrome. Firefox/Safari just don't have devs testing on them. I currently have Firefox for most things, but I seemingly always have chromium open to check to see if a website isnt behaving correctly. What a terrible time for computing. Chrome is in total control of web. Nvidia + M$ have complete control of high performance computin…

What power does MS have over high performance computing? Perhaps some fields use Windows specific applications, but most high performance computing I see uses Linux by default, with WSL for the Windows equivalent.

I use Chrome as a fallback too when the measures I've taken to protect my privacy break websites I can't get around, but in most cases websites just work in my experience. Almost all of the issues I run into are caused by addons messing with websites, like content blockers.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by luuurker »

retrocryptid wrote: post #163
nerdponx wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would use Firefox profiles if it were easier.

Why are they not easy? You go to "about:profiles" and click the "launch profile in new browser." You don't have to install an extension or remember to start-up with a particular command line option.

Compare that page and how you get to that page to Chromium's profiles UI and you'll understand what the problem is.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by luuurker »

mariusor wrote: post #105
nerdponx wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would use Firefox profiles if it were easier.

Try this extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/profile-switc...

"Additional software is required for this extension to function, you will be prompted to install it after installing the extension."

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by luuurker »

littlestymaar wrote: post #141
zuhsetaqi wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your argument is, most people don't need it so it's justified that the UX is horrible?

The profile UX on Chrome is almost as horrible as it is on Firefox from a user's perspective, namely you need to reinstall all your addons and have no shared history so you need to check twice every time you're looking for something. The only difference is that on Chrome, it's the only way to have two different accounts on the same site, whereas on Firefox you generally don't need it unless you need the highest level…

Profiles and Containers are different things.

If more people understood this, we would be asking for better profile support on Firefox and for container support on Chromium, not suggesting containers to people who need profiles or trying to use profiles as if they were tab containers.

I want profiles because they provide exactly what you mentioned: separation. I need different extensions, bookmarks, history, etc. And inside each profile I can use containers if I want to.

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