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Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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ChatGPT plus with a YouTube plugin does that too.

Interesting. I see multiple plugins. Any there any you recommend?

I use the AAAsummarize.io chatgpt plugin to summarize youtube videos. Has worked really well for me.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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I feel like this is knee-jerk over-generalization. Having Google summarize a too-long recipe (a problem they created, by the way) into just the simple ingredients and instructions is NOT "deciding your view of the world".

Pretty sure the long recipes are due to others not being able to copy them if you have long essay describing it or something?

I assumed the long essays were for SEO (inflates the amount of cooking-related keywords). Which would make it kind of ironic that another Google product is now stripping the SEO content back out.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Ironically, articles got pointlessly long because of Google. Everyone stretches their content because long form ranks better. A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. It's even worse with videos. It takes 10 minutes t…

For questions such as the difference between typhoon and hurricane, ChatGPT and Claude give accurate answers in just a couple of seconds. It’s such a different experience compared to the search engines.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Ironically, articles got pointlessly long because of Google. Everyone stretches their content because long form ranks better. A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. It's even worse with videos. It takes 10 minutes t…

For questions such as the difference between typhoon and hurricane, ChatGPT and Claude give accurate answers in just a couple of seconds. It’s such a different experience compared to the search engines.

Yeah, search engines give accurate answers for that question with no noticeable latency, providing a much better experience.

That was the difference you meant to highlight, right?

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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> A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. I just googled “what is the difference between typhoon and hurricane” Top result is from the Red Cross, with this blurb conveniently extracted so I don’t even need to click i…

With this Search Lab enabled Google just gives you the answer above all the results. """ The only difference between a hurricane and a typhoon is the location where the storm occurs. If a storm is above the North Atlantic, central North Pacific, or eastern North Pacific oceans, it's called a hurricane. If it hovers over the Northwest Pacific Ocean (usually East Asia), it's called a typhoon. """

The search labs are not available in my country and I get the quick snippet response anyways

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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post #37

Ironically, articles got pointlessly long because of Google. Everyone stretches their content because long form ranks better. A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. It's even worse with videos. It takes 10 minutes t…

Google's "featured snippets" make it too easy for content farmers to thrive. As long as someone has the exact search "What is ___?", "How do I do _____?", etc formatted as an h2 with a simple explanation underneath, they have a pretty good shot of getting a feature. There's really no quality control.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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If you don't think you'll change anyone's mind, and aren't trying to, then why are you posting?

Person 1: “An electric vehicle will never work for me because…” Person 2: “I want an electric vehicle because…” Is that a better example to convey my point?

That's the sort of exchange I want to see. It's useful and educational to hear what works and doesn't work for people, and why. It's not noise at all to me, it's teaching me about the upsides and downsides people have found about a thing in their real lives.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Interestingly, OSX has had a Summary Service for as long as I can remember: Simply select text > App (Menu bar) > Services > Summarize[1]. I still use it from time to time, and it's pretty good, and completely offline!

[1] It's off by default these days, you'll have to turn on the Summary service under service settings.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Hard pass. I don't want Google, or even a trustworthy neutral party, to decide my view of the world. (Compromised as it may be already.) We're all unique and unpredictable. In a given article, a random sentence or point considered throwaway by most people and algorithms could turn out to be meaningful to me. I've been trained not to even trust the basic facts they pull of out content like movie showtimes or whatever.…

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Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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post #37

Ironically, articles got pointlessly long because of Google. Everyone stretches their content because long form ranks better. A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. It's even worse with videos. It takes 10 minutes t…

This is astonishing: https://archive.ph/fbLlZ > "Let’s start with some research from Hook Agency, which claims the best content length for SEO in 2023 is between 1,760 and 2,400 words" The source, however loathsome, is probably correct. The front pages of the internet have become saturated with garbage ultra-long-form articles... not even "articles," really, more like ramblings. And it's Google's fault.

We traded a sane web experience for a better search experience and now both are trash and filled with ads. The modern internet really sucks
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