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Ode to the M1

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Re: Ode to the M1

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> Practically no consumers care except for other software engineers complaining loudly on HN, and meanwhile companies save millions by not handcrafting their CRUD apps in assembly. And you know that because you’ve analyzed whole market and know opinion of users of every web software? Definitely not because you only live in bubble of other software engineers so you’re not exposed to complaints of common folk?

No end consumers I know or even acquaintances of other people I know even know nor care about Electron. You might say that I'm in a bubble but at that point it's just the No True Scotsman fallacy.

Literally all of my acquaintances in previous company complained about Teams being slow and buggy. I also see it constantly being mentioned online.

Re: Ode to the M1

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That’s not true at all. Have you actually used one? Edit: obviously if you need a windows vm you’re out of luck at 8gb ram

You’re out of luck if you need docker. M1 Macs would make fantastic Linux laptops, because macOS is appallingly bad at backend development. It makes it up in sheer hardware power and efficiency, otherwise I’d be completely at loss why it’s so loved.

> macOS is appallingly bad at backend development

That's news to me. In what way are they bad compared to Linux? Both can run docker, Intellij, Insomnia and Dbeaver.

Re: Ode to the M1

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> Software "engineers" > For every extra cycle an hardware engineer can squeeze out of silicon, you will find a programmer adding one hundred cycles to their program[6]. In other terms, I fear that once devs figure out how powerful the M1 is, they will throw more "features" at it. Can we please stop replicating the "growth" fallacy into software ecosystems? Haven't we learnt enough about how unsustainable and damagin…

For that you need a better alternative. I’m not aware of anything.

https://sciter.com/

Re: Ode to the M1

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The M1 is great, but I really dislike the limitation to 2 external displays unless you get the ultra model CPU.

I've just gotten really used to my portrait landscape landscape setup! And of course I'm an outlier so corporate IT won't buy me an ultra CPU version.

I guess that it's to force people to pay more, but it feels like such an arbitrary decision. Sure, restrict it to 2x6K displays, but I'm using 3x4K displays that the Intel MacBook Pro handles just fine.

Also, it's a real hassle trying to explain to angry developers about why their 4 year old ancient x86_64 arch docker containers won't work natively. (The containers crash under Rosetta emulation)

Compiling Emacs in 5 minutes vs 10 on Intel is really nice though!

Re: Ode to the M1

#166

The M1 is great, but I really dislike the limitation to 2 external displays unless you get the ultra model CPU. I've just gotten really used to my portrait landscape landscape setup! And of course I'm an outlier so corporate IT won't buy me an ultra CPU version. I guess that it's to force people to pay more, but it feels like such an arbitrary decision. Sure, restrict it to 2x6K displays, but I'm using 3x4K displays…

> I know it’s to force people…

I’ve seen the longstanding understood technical explanation for this limitation. I can’t recall what it is now, but it seemed more than plausible at the time. Of course, ‘Apple bad’ is always going to be more viral. And, of course, you can take any hardware component and “just add…” it to max spec.

Re: Ode to the M1

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The main problem with devices like Apple's Mx series laptops is that everything works fine...until it doesn't. This device is non-repairable and non-upgradeable as far as CPU, RAM and disk are concerned. Now people may claim that Apple hardware is superior to other manufacturers and that it will last longer. So far I have found that to be false, I have more old non-Apple hardware that is still working fine and few Ap…

> The main problem with devices like Apple's Mx series laptops is that everything works fine...until it doesn't. This device is non-repairable and […] The sad unspoken truth is that most apple users are just rich enough to replace the whole thing when it breaks, and don’t really care much of the environmental issues if apple hardware.

I doubt you can find any data to back that claim up. My first macbook was in daily use for about 8 years. My current macbook is only four years old so I'm not expecting to replace it any time soon. Colleagues seem to have the same usage pattern. Apple hardware lasts a long time.

edit: no hard data after a quick google but every article on the first two pages estimates 5-8 years.

Re: Ode to the M1

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> Both Ubuntu and Windows run at native speed since they are virtualized instead of emulated.

Coudl someone explain it to me how it's possible? Because their website clearly says "On Intel Macs, x86/x64 operating system can be virtualized. In addition, lower performance emulation is available to run x86/x64 on Apple Silicon" - and Windows on ARM64 is still in a preview.

Re: Ode to the M1

#169
Meh, I have some old screwdrivers that still work too. I just don't get hardware fetish. Just boot it up, run code, shut it down, and go enjoy summer and/or winter.

Re: Ode to the M1

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The M1 is great, but I really dislike the limitation to 2 external displays unless you get the ultra model CPU. I've just gotten really used to my portrait landscape landscape setup! And of course I'm an outlier so corporate IT won't buy me an ultra CPU version. I guess that it's to force people to pay more, but it feels like such an arbitrary decision. Sure, restrict it to 2x6K displays, but I'm using 3x4K displays…

> I know it’s to force people… I’ve seen the longstanding understood technical explanation for this limitation. I can’t recall what it is now, but it seemed more than plausible at the time. Of course, ‘Apple bad’ is always going to be more viral. And, of course, you can take any hardware component and “just add…” it to max spec.

I'll edit "I know" to "I guess". Sorry, I just woke up and saw this thread while making coffee.
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