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YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by TillE »

sgjohnson wrote: post #31
d0mine wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is the freedom fighter? That it is indeed laughable.

Microsoft has largely stopped giving a fuck about piracy of their consumer products. py-kms is freely available on GitHub, and so are Windows Activation Tools. While arguably py-kms doesn’t violate anything, as it’s a cleanroom implementation of the KMS server, Windows Activation Tools definitely does. Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.

It is remarkable how easy they've made it to cleanly pirate Windows recently. You don't even need to run your own KMS thing, there are several public servers, and you just type in three terminal commands.

Totally different from the Vista/7/8 era where activation required real cracking software. It's an explicit signal that they don't really care about consumer licensing.

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Post by agensaequivocum »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #120
tivert wrote: post #116

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I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military…

A few points:

* How effective one may be in defending himself does not change the right in anyway.

* This is why the right extends to all arms of modern warfare. E.g., machine-guns, mortars, grenades, tanks, night vision, etc.

* The Founder were very much against a standing army...we should probably abolish it.

* When combatants are mixed with non-combatants, one cannot just drop a bomb. Because of this, well armed individuals can absolutely resist the military.

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Post by qingcharles »

zlg_codes wrote: post #149
qingcharles wrote: post #134

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Yes, but it was done anonymously. The competitor denied all knowledge of it, but the guy he paid to do the reporting would talk to me through chat every day to gloat about it. I ended up paying 15000EUR bounty to track the guy down. Found him in Germany. 15 year old kid. Had somebody talk his mother about him. Never had a problem again after that.

Did you ever try to recover the amount spent on the bounty? That kid caused damages to your business.

No, I took it as a cost of doing business. I only went that far after he managed to find my wife's cell phone number and started calling to harass her.

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Post by amelius »

danuker wrote: post #92
AugustoCAS wrote: post #57

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You have to build it from source to avoid the 60kbps limit. There hasn't been a release since Dec 2021 and there have been some updates since then that implement the 'puzzle' to get the right value of the url parameter. It's worth noting that YouTube is trialling a new player and a lot of applications (invidious, new pipe, etc) are experiencing some issues in the last couple of weeks.

It's funny how a trillion-dollar company is playing cat-and-mouse with a few free software projects, and losing most of the time.

Except few people use the tool, so it is not hurting them much.

If this were to change, then I'm sure the battle would look very different, both legally and from a technical viewpoint.

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

tivert wrote: post #151
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #120

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I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military…

> I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military… I know, that's why Afghanistan is a shining star of liberalism in the Central Asia. The Taliban never was able to defend itself from the willing US military and was defeated years ago.

Do you, in all honesty, think the US showed its full might against the taliban in an all out war?

The war served its purpose and when it was no longer profitable enough they moved.

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Post by pwdisswordfishc »

pessimizer wrote: post #87
Espionage724 wrote: post #66

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I can listen to music on the radio, but it's a whole different issue when I pick specific songs to pirate for my own personal listening :p But that's not where the caring comes in; it's the tools I can use to pirate songs; hence youtube-dl going down and not the users who used it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a TOS clause about videos on YT not being your property and that you can't export them off the platform…

In order to watch these videos, your computer downloads the videos. Your radio doesn't have to download a copy of the song to play it. > I can't imaging there being a large percentage of "legitmate" and fair usage. My usage is usually no less legitimate than youtube's usage. I'm usually downloading things that were uploaded without permission from the copyright holders from a platform that is distributing them withou…

> Your radio doesn't have to download a copy of the song to play it.

Yes, it does. It’s called ‘receiving the signal’.

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Post by skeaker »

autoexec wrote: post #43
sgjohnson wrote: post #31

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Microsoft has largely stopped giving a fuck about piracy of their consumer products. py-kms is freely available on GitHub, and so are Windows Activation Tools. While arguably py-kms doesn’t violate anything, as it’s a cleanroom implementation of the KMS server, Windows Activation Tools definitely does. Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.

MS has done a good thing by defending youtube-dl but their lax enforcement concerning windows piracy is a bit different. MS turns a blind eye to windows piracy for the same reasons malware authors don't care if their software is spread on GitHub or P2P sites. Microsoft cares much more about getting their hands on all your personal data than they care about the money they'd get from an OEM license. People can download…

It's also because MS makes way, way, way more money on business licenses than they do on individual consumer ones. They don't have much incentive to care about individuals not giving them a sale. Meanwhile, businesses are actively audited if they're suspected of violating license agreements.

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Post by f33d5173 »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #131
netsharc wrote: post #100

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I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

> I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. They aren't investing because its a CLI tool. Its not really a threat. If it was, like, a "1 click download free music from Youtube!" app that was trending like crazy, Google would focus more on fighting it. The project is balanced between…

There are many websites that provide exactly that function. I suspect most of them are based yt-dl{,p}. By killing cli tools, google can effectively stifle such websites as well.

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Post by Sinescape »

tempodox wrote: post #30
branon wrote: post #2

It's laughable how symbolic and ultimately meaningless this is. GitHub has already proven themselves to be a good actor in this particular fight, so not only is the repo online, but we also have http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/ The Uberspace provider is appealing the decision as well. Even with the site down, this looks incredibly positive from where I sit. Rightsholders and litigators get stuffed, we always win…

The site is online, but the download link ( https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl ) is borked: Due to a ruling of the Hamburg Regional Court, access to this website is blocked.

Shame it merely responds with HTTP 403 and not 451.
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