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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by Endy »

undefinedland wrote: post #70
throw-ru-938 wrote: post #17

Context: Yandex is in the news right now because a couple of days ago its cofounder and former CEO Arkady Volozh was caught trying to hide his Russian past [0], and today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war [1], almost 1.5 years after the full-scale invasion began. [0] https://kz.kursiv.media/en/2023-08-07/co-founder-of-yandex-e... [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-yandex-volozh..…

This is the West. You are either with us or against us. Forever.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by tri5635hhfgvv5r »

boeingUH60 wrote: post #20
tenpies wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West.

"Oligarchs" refer to underground Russian businessmen that cheaply bought up state assets after the USSR collapsed and sold it for exceedingly higher sums later. It's a blasphemy to capitalism to conflate those bandits with Western entrepreneurs that founded and built their own companies from scratch, even though they have their own set of issues.

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by salad-tycoon »

helge9210 wrote: post #58
londons_explore wrote: post #42

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> today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war Would you issue such a statement in his position? Think carefully. If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. If you do, your family back home might be at risk, and you will probably never be able to visit them again. Personally, I cannot in good faith demand anyone condemn the war, if to do so, they are putting fami…

> I cannot in good faith demand While some people ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasyl_Makukh ) sacrificed their lives in protest of Soviet Russia invasion into Czechoslovakia, timely public statement is the least he could do.

“Sir! We demand your sacrifice your life to us now! It’s tour duty.”

Not your call, nor for any other arm chair general.

Right or wrong.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by oneshtein »

tri5635hhfgvv5r wrote: post #155
throw-ru-938 wrote: post #144

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There's probably no hard proof, but Russia is allegedly funding far-right movements like AfD and whatever Le Pen's party in France is now called. Also, see the career of Gerhard Schroeder, first German chancellor and then a top Gazprom official.

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Russia is very lucky that someone blown up their stopped pipe-line, because that saved them many billions in fines for violation of supply contract.

They also very lucky that working pipeline is not blown up.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

sva_ wrote: post #53
kypro wrote: post #31

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I wrote a comment a few years back how I was using Yandex quite a bit at the time because there are things I'm simply unable to find on Google – sites like sci-hub for example. Today though I find myself using it daily. The results are far from perfect, but I've never suspected them to be randomly hiding or suppressing search results like many of the popular Western alternatives. I don't use image search much, but ye…

> sites like sci-hub for example To be fair, that is not Google's fault. It always cracks me up that when you see the DMCA note on the bottom and you click on it, you get to see the hosts anyways: https://lumendatabase.org/notices/26024315

>Senders: [...] Springer Fachmedien Wiesbaden GmbH

Why am I not surprised to see Springer as one of the claimants? /rhetorical question

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

slashdev wrote: post #141
dindobre wrote: post #105

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>Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments No offense but the fact that someone on HN could get to this conclusion is rather shocking to me. Western Europe has plenty of russian corruption and I'm afraid the ongoing war has unearthed only a fraction of it.

For example?

Austria is the lobbying arm and safe heaven of Russian banks, oil & gas and oligarchs in the EU, and vice versa, Austrian banks and companies are heavily invested in Russia, and you don't just get to be a major investor in Russia without the bribes, connections and blessing of some very high up people in the government.

Pretty sure plenty of German politicians were similarly cozy with Russia before.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by chpatrick »

slashdev wrote: post #141
dindobre wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments No offense but the fact that someone on HN could get to this conclusion is rather shocking to me. Western Europe has plenty of russian corruption and I'm afraid the ongoing war has unearthed only a fraction of it.

For example?

The son of a KGB agent and oligarch is a British lord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgeny_Lebedev

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by justsomehnguy »

sgt wrote: post #30
kkfdkerpoe wrote: post #3

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Yes, lots of giants for a country with GDP lower than that of Italy. Perhaps they refer to the bellies of the oligarchy that owns the companies.

I think the frequent comparisons of GDP leads the West to heavily underestimate Russia. While GDP may be lower than Italy and per capita is weak, a nation like Russia can probably accomplish an order of magnitude more large scale projects, and also sustain a certain economy climate for much much longer than we think. So don't underestimate Russia, even though we'd like to think they're soon running out of steam to co…

My favourite tidbit for when someone brings 'less than Italy hur dur':

Italy: Size of the labor force from 2014 to 2024: ~23M

Number of pensioners in Russia from 2012 to 2022: ~44M

Italy population? ~58M

There are almost twice as many pensioners in Russia than people in the labour force in Italy and it's 2/3 of the whole Italy population. The whole GDP comparison here is moot.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/275312/labor-force-in-it...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1093953/number-of-retire...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by joshuaissac »

justrealist wrote: post #137
mistrial9 wrote: post #124

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it is deeply true, and everyone actually involved would know that

Can you name off the top of your head the last 3 significant privatizations?

> Can you name off the top of your head the last 3 significant privatizations?

In the UK, privatisation of Network Rail arches (which will 'break even' for the buyers in about ten years), privatisation or TfL land in London at below-market prices to property developers, and the backdoor privatisation of NHS services through public-private partnerships.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by Stephen0xFF »

xenator wrote: post #102
0xDEF wrote: post #63

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>Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West. The term "oligarch" has a specific meaning and, surprisingly, Western media uses the term correctly about the subset of corrupt Russian and Ukrainian businessmen who got rich in the 1990s by buying billions worth of state monopolies for pennies. I have never se…

Oligarch means businessman who have monopoly in some field. So, it is not very different from old money in Europe. Or corporations in USA.

That is not the definition[0]. I can see how you think it might be, but oligarchy is for governments not monopolies -- even if some cases that line is blurred.

[0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oligarch

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