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Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by m463 »

chaosprint wrote: post #70

I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

I have a remarkable 2 and use it to read PDF and e-books. e-pub was slow, so I use PDF.

It doesn't have to phone home or use the cloud, which is sort of refreshing. I have never hooked it into any network or even bothered updating the software.

I use USB which becomes a network interface, then connect to http://10.11.99.1/ and drag/drop files. This is all local.

No built-in lighting, but it works great with a reading lamp or in sunlight.

It replaces a book in my lap and is just for reading books. Sometimes I use it while exercising on treadmill, and with the big screen and large type it works great.

only nit, is sometimes swipe when turning pages is ignored and I have to do it a couple of times. (Maybe it is sleeping and needs to be woken?)

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by Tepix »

During the first year of Covid, i tried using a Boox Max Lumi 13.3" with HDMI in as an external monitor for working at home on the terrace. It didn't work: Too much ghosting.

The video looks promising. But i'll wait until there are some reviews.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by michaelmior »

chaosprint wrote: post #70

I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

I have the original reMarkable device and I love it. My father has the rM2 and also enjoys it, but I haven't felt the need to upgrade. I'd happy take a free one though :)

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by chaosprint »

23B1 wrote: post #117
chaosprint wrote: post #70

I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

Have been thinking about one of these for writing. Is it something you recommend for that express purpose? Note: I can't just use an e-ink screen w/keyboard and a simple text editor, I used a handful of specialized writing programs like Scrivener and FinalDraft and often collaborate in Gdocs, so I need something that mirrors the screen of a personal computer unfortunately. My goal is to be able to spend more time out…

I can only say that Boox Tab X 13.3 works for me. With Android you can do a lot of things. Also the Mira works fine to be a Windows screen but it might not be the best if you wanna a minimal outdoor setup.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by chx »

I have a not-eReader 078 (back then it was just called not-eReader before the 10" sibling came to be) and it's an incredible device for a super small niche: secondary screen for an emergency laptop. https://imgur.com/a/xmRmYSn especially https://i.imgur.com/eV7qq8Y.jpg .

Notably there has not been a successor to the One Mix Yoga 2S. Later devices are larger, the current crop of handhelds are gaming handhelds with appropriate controls without a keyboard. Even the Ayaneo Air 1S which only has a 5.5" screen is 224mm wide where the Yoga 2S was 182mm. It's a little narrower though. I might buy it and use it with the ancient Samsung NP-Q1 keyboard.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by efitz »

jseliger wrote: post #101
myself248 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RM2 ex-pat club member here too! Beautiful design, bizarrely crippled user experience. They put a wifi+bt chip on the board, but didn't connect the bluetooth signals, so you couldn't use a bluetooth keyboard with it like any other tablet. And a zillion other frustrations. I sold it to a friend after making super sure he was okay with the limitations and wouldn't blame me for selling him a lemon.

I've written about this on HN before, but the RM2 people don't make the device show up as a standard USB device, which makes file manipulations hard. I think this is an effort to sell their "cloud" server stuff for a few dollars a month. That's not been the effect on me; instead, I barely use mine, and complain about it on the Internet.

Attention all device manufacturers: I don’t want your f-ing cloud. When I buy a physical thing, having to keep paying you every month is a dealbreaker. I don’t care that you want a constant subscription revenue stream, buying a piece of hardware is about me, not you.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by mholm »

no_wizard wrote: post #82
mdp2021 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lack of built-in lighting That depends on the environment. Natural light fights against the functioning of light-emitting displays. Reflective displays cooperate with natural light. You in the dark? Use OLED. Under the sun? Use EPD.

As kindle devices have shown though, you can backlight an e-ink display too

This is technically a frontlight. The panel contains a diffuser and has LEDs at all edges of the display.

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by arp242 »

thelazyone wrote: post #86
Brian_K_White wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do that already, and it results in ghosting and leftover artifacts. It's all tradeoffs, improving one number only to a limited extent and only at the expense of other numbers. Ie, faster action at the expense of worse image. No free lunch or getting around it by handwaving 'advancement'.

If the update was truly pixel based there should be no ghosting/artifact whatsoever. Looks like global refreshes or cleanup are still relevant, while ideally each pixel could be completely independent. Trade-offs are a problem, but in this case i don't see any physical reason for this to be a theoretical trade-off. More like a limit of the current technology.

It is pixel-based, it just doesn't result in perfect updates. I'm not entirely sure why this is the case: maybe the power is too low (as a trade-off between speed and accuracy), maybe clear a cell affects neighbouring cells, or maybe something else.

E-ink displays are hardly new and lots of people have been thinking about/working on the slow refresh rates for over 2 decades. Do you really think that anything you can come up with on HN in 5 minutes without any knowledge of the tech is something people hadn't thought of before?

Re: Paperlike Color: Color E-Ink Monitor

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Post by lights0123 »

chaosprint wrote: post #70

I owned lots of E-ink devices. I got a Boox Mira 13 inch screen and it works well on both Mac/Windows. On Windows I can even have some touchscreen interaction. But I have to warn you!!!! that your mouse is not going to work as it feels very different. So I use it only to read news, reply emails and messages. Coding, video, and gaming would be impossible! The same thing would 100% go to this new display. I have also g…

If you're willing to hack around with a reMarkable, koreader or plato have far better reading support if you don't need annotation.
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