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Capitalism good according to capitalism
Look at the bourgeoisie! -- Socialism pointing at subsistence farmers happy at earning a good wage
That's how it works ruling class makes up the "party line"
Guam: The America that Americans forget
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Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#162Maybe that is because Guam is not in America?
In what way? The territories are as much a part of the US as the states are. They simply have a different status than the states do. I assume you're making some point/remark regarding their status and the political mindfield surrounding it, but that doesn't change their subnational/sovereign situation.
I am making that point regarding USA != America. America is a continent, not a country and Guam is not part of it despite being part of the USA.
It would be like saying that Bora-Bora or New Caledonia were in Europe. Well no, they are part of France and the European Union, but not Europe.
The America/USA ambiguation is very annoying to hear or even considered rude/insulting for most america inhabitants outside of the USA.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flight costs are a pain, and the flight durations are nothing to sneeze at either. I live out in Guam (my wife is stationed here with the Navy) and the two most common ways to get back to the mainland are via Tokyo (Narita) and Honolulu. I would definitely encourage visiting if you have the means! I find there are two types of people here: those who feel limited by the island and its infrastructure (no Target, no Sta…
I thought about retiring in Guam someday since Medicare would actually work there. But I can’t imagine it is much nicer than Bali or some parts of Thailand I’m also thinking about (if my health is good 20 years later), and it’s definitely more expensive than.
OTOH I would guesstimate Guam to be much more politically stable than Bali or Thailand.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ordinary American citizens didn't like the idea of being colonizers, since they had, not long ago, been a colony themselves and fought to free themselves.
> Ordinary American citizens didn't like the idea of being colonizers, since they had, not long ago, been a colony themselves and fought to free themselves. Bad comparison: the American Revolution was a group of colonialists rebelling against their colonialist bosses, not a rebellion of the colonised against the coloniser. Indeed, one of the American Revolution’s complaints was that London was too protective of Nativ…
Yeah it's quite impressive how widespread this mythology is and how deeply people buy into it. Many have this anachronistic view of rough-and-ready, good old boy Americans rebelling against tea-sipping foppish British fancy lads solely in the noble pursuit of freedom. The reality is somewhat more nuanced and tbh far more interesting too.
But people like to have a simplified view of history that validates their beliefs and bristle when confronted with the reality that things weren't so simple, and their heroes were often darker, more complex and tbh more problematic than they realise.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flight costs are a pain, and the flight durations are nothing to sneeze at either. I live out in Guam (my wife is stationed here with the Navy) and the two most common ways to get back to the mainland are via Tokyo (Narita) and Honolulu. I would definitely encourage visiting if you have the means! I find there are two types of people here: those who feel limited by the island and its infrastructure (no Target, no Sta…
I get the feeling that Hawaii takes all the US tourism for tropical islands. In a hypothetical scenario where Hawaii didn't exist maybe Guam would be more popular? But maybe it's better this way.
It’s so much farther than Hawaii that my guess is that overall tourism numbers would be much less.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what way? The territories are as much a part of the US as the states are. They simply have a different status than the states do. I assume you're making some point/remark regarding their status and the political mindfield surrounding it, but that doesn't change their subnational/sovereign situation.
I am making that point regarding USA != America. America is a continent, not a country and Guam is not part of it despite being part of the USA. It would be like saying that Bora-Bora or New Caledonia were in Europe. Well no, they are part of France and the European Union, but not Europe. The America/USA ambiguation is very annoying to hear or even considered rude/insulting for most america inhabitants outside of the…
I'm well aware of it's political decisiveness in LATAM, but it's pretty clear the context here is the colloquial usage in English; despite your personal feelings.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#167Sorta related, Guam is a good place for game servers to have similar pings for Asia, Oceania and USA (sorta) https://www.oneqode.com/guam/
Yea I recently started hosting a very niche game server in Guam (action quake 2) because of its central location.
It’s 95ms from Melbourne, AU, 110ms from Auckland, NZ and about 120ms from west coast US. Central US is probably about 150ms.
All of which are very close playable.
Living in Australia, as a teen FPS gamer it was always frustrating to know that no matter what tech comes next, the physical distance is the limiting factor.
So Guam is a cool workaround.
I used oneqode. Really easy, and affordable.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#168No taxation without representation. Stop charging the inhabitants for any and all U.S. taxes. Hell, decolonize and let them have their freedom and independence.
I doubt a majority of Guam residents want independence at this point. Being part of the US is economically useful, compared to being a small independent island. But yeah, statehood would solve the representation issue.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or maybe just accept that the one constant of life is everyone takes everyone else's shit if and when they can and want. Sure. But if this is normal, why is it so hard to accept what Russia is doing to Ukraine? Just because evils were done in the past, doesn’t mean we should just accept it as universal truths and continue doing the same things to others (islanders). If you accept that Russia is wrong, then invading…
We hold and use Guam for the same reason we support Ukraine against Russia: We believe these things are in our interests. The justifications we give are just words.
Of course. The trick is to at least somewhat align your interests with the moral high ground.
It actually makes a difference in the long run.
Re: Guam: The America that Americans forget
#170Give peace a chance. Just sayin.