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Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by quadrifoliate »

anderspitman wrote: post #128
quadrifoliate wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you say is true, but the Namecheap partnership is premature even taking that into account. Why? The high sensitivity domains that are most likely to want to be verified via the (mildly confusing) domain-to-user mapping on Bluesky already exist . To take your example, Apple is not likely to try and register iphone.apple.com on Namecheap. On the other hand, "normal" users who just want to chat with their friends a…

I agree this might confuse users initially, but we need to normalize owning and using domains. We also need to make it much easier and this is an important step.

Sure, but that is a lofty goal, and quite different from Bluesky's goals, which (according to https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/6-13-2023-what-is-bluesky) are:

- Users own their data and can take it anywhere they want to go.

- Developers will never get locked out of the ecosystems they help build.

- Creators will always own their relationships with their audience.

User portability is always possible without the user owning their domain. I suppose the creator relationships are maybe relevant to this domain stuff?

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by ketzo »

lapcat wrote: post #38
prakhar897 wrote: post #26

Bluesky is dead. Nobody is going to move again. They had the chance of outrun threads but slept on it. Whatever they release now, will never get initial users to get it off ground.

> They had the chance of outrun threads but slept on it. I don't think that's a fair criticism. Threads is backed by a $750 billion market cap megacorporation, while Bluesky just announced a seed round of $8 million, a mere drop in the bucket for Meta. https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/7-05-2023-business-plan

I mean, regardless of why they are missing their chance, they’re still missing it.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by agnosticmantis »

botanical wrote: post #103
fastball wrote: post #70

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> Decentralized platforms are the way to go even if it is centralized Wat.

Probably as in you can move your account to another server seamlessly. Mastodon also relies on "centralised" servers; none of them are p2p

Isn’t that federation?

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by stubybubs »

lapcat wrote: post #38
prakhar897 wrote: post #26

Bluesky is dead. Nobody is going to move again. They had the chance of outrun threads but slept on it. Whatever they release now, will never get initial users to get it off ground.

> They had the chance of outrun threads but slept on it. I don't think that's a fair criticism. Threads is backed by a $750 billion market cap megacorporation, while Bluesky just announced a seed round of $8 million, a mere drop in the bucket for Meta. https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/7-05-2023-business-plan

Dorsey's net worth is something north of $4B, not to mention all the connections he has for investment. Raising a paltry $8M was not due to the difficulty of procuring money; not to attempting to scale rapidly was a deliberate choice. It's quite possibly going to end up a very bad choice.

Seems pretty clear typical users don't care about decentralization, verification for themselves, or algorithm customization at all. They just want to post and look at nonsense.

I'm not sure what will become of Bluesky, but I don't think it'll the Twitter replacement. Seems more like a classic case of developing for power users instead of typical ones.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by atq2119 »

justapassenger wrote: post #77
routelastresort wrote: post #54

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90% of my timeline is on Threads is all stuff I don't even follow, while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for. Decentralized platforms are the only way to go, even if it's the centralized version and vision. The Zucc way of ramming (overly) suggested content and ads down your throat will die if there are alternatives.

They announced that more feed options, including followers only are coming. They rushed to market.

Considering that "followed only" is far simpler to build, that's a pretty lame excuse and doesn't do anything to change my opinion about whether they're priorities are healthy.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by inpdx »

troupo wrote: post #155
routelastresort wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

90% of my timeline is on Threads is all stuff I don't even follow, while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for. Decentralized platforms are the only way to go, even if it's the centralized version and vision. The Zucc way of ramming (overly) suggested content and ads down your throat will die if there are alternatives.

> while Bluesky is exactly what I ask for Not exactly. They can't even show you full timelines: https://bsky.app/profile/dholms.xyz/post/3jzsdcorxx42n

Trivial to code up a custom feed to show however long you want.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by rmuratov »

tsimionescu wrote: post #144
devjab wrote: post #133

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Identity management is the biggest issue with social media. I'm on mastodon, but my "identity" is tied directly to the server instance that I'm on. If something happens to that server instance then I'm basically losing my "identity". If my "identity" was tied to a domain I owned then keeping it would be as simple as changing a few DNS settings. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's actually going to be an…

Except of course when for whaetever reason you won't be able to pay your DNS provider for some time, and you'll lose your identity to someone else. DNS is really not a good platform to build personal identity on.

What is good? Public GPG keys?

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by devjab »

esperent wrote: post #147
devjab wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Identity management is the biggest issue with social media. I'm on mastodon, but my "identity" is tied directly to the server instance that I'm on. If something happens to that server instance then I'm basically losing my "identity". If my "identity" was tied to a domain I owned then keeping it would be as simple as changing a few DNS settings. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's actually going to be an…

> as simple as changing a few DNS settings For 99.9% of users this is a not at all simple.

Isn’t that why they are partnering with Namecheap, to make the process simple?

I do agree with you, I just don’t think it’s really an issue unless having a domain is the only way to have an “identity” on the network. If it’s something you can opt into, then I don’t see how it’s a problem. It depends on the implementation of course.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by ryan29 »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #124
eddythompson80 wrote: post #97

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Seems like identity management is at the core of what Bluesky is trying to change. Twitter managing verification of accounts makes it harder to not be seen as an endorsement of some degree. With this system, Bluesky doesn’t need to verify @iphone, when Apple can just create @iphone.apple.com. It’s pretty central to their identity management and verification. Having it in year 5 is like not having it at all.

What you say is true, but the Namecheap partnership is premature even taking that into account. Why? The high sensitivity domains that are most likely to want to be verified via the (mildly confusing) domain-to-user mapping on Bluesky already exist . To take your example, Apple is not likely to try and register iphone.apple.com on Namecheap. On the other hand, "normal" users who just want to chat with their friends a…

> Apple is not likely to try and register iphone.apple.com on Namecheap.

Definitely not because that’s not how it works. They already own apple.com and can verify any subdomain they want. Plus, I think some of those domains are so valuable the company creates their own registrar to manage them. Ex: RegistrarSafe is a subsidiary of Facebook. They’re definitely not using a consumer grade registrar like Namecheap.

I think domains are complicated for the average user, but if you sell them as premium, globally unique handles for only $10-20 (ish) per year, that’ll create a lot of demand.

Even if it’s only appealing to business users, domains as identities make a lot of sense because it allows a business to be definitively recognized across the internet. There’s no ambiguity or impersonation.

Re: Purchase and manage domains directly through Bluesky

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Post by devjab »

tsimionescu wrote: post #144
devjab wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Identity management is the biggest issue with social media. I'm on mastodon, but my "identity" is tied directly to the server instance that I'm on. If something happens to that server instance then I'm basically losing my "identity". If my "identity" was tied to a domain I owned then keeping it would be as simple as changing a few DNS settings. I don't know enough about Bluesky to say if it's actually going to be an…

Except of course when for whaetever reason you won't be able to pay your DNS provider for some time, and you'll lose your identity to someone else. DNS is really not a good platform to build personal identity on.

I think you can come up with a range of issues as to how this will eventually fail for some people, but what is a better alternative?
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