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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#161
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Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

I'll take one, please.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#162
post #149
post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

I tried to make a lemmy account on my phone in between errands. Couldn't figure it out. I'll give it a shot on desktop, and I want a reddit replacement, but I wonder how many other people are gonna go to the same effort. Maybe that's a feature though, an escape from eternal September.

I joined kbin.social and have been pleasantly suprised with it. Everything I'm subscribed to there is slow moving at the moment, but frankly I find that pace refreshing. I've seen threads remain active for several days, which doesn't seem to happen anywhere else.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#163

Narwhal (a 3rd-party iOS Reddit app) is still going and it turns out not biting the hand that feeds you works pretty well. Respect to the Apollo guy for having the confidence that he could get Reddit to back down through a well-organized PR campaign. But he could’ve had a decent business if he’d just backed down, given in a little, and not tried to make Spez look like a bigger idiot/liar than he already did. I love a…

Reddit didn't win. Sometimes you're going to be lunch whether you want to or not, but you don't have to be a pleasant lunch. Reddit is dead; it just doesn't know it yet.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#165
post #61

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Apollo had an optional safari extension that caught Reddit URLs and opened them in Apollo instead. It was great.

And it worked flawlessly too. Apollo was really a cut above anything I’ve seen out there. Was holding out hope that Reddit would reverse course, but I suppose not.

They didn’t even have to reverse course for this to work out. Just give a reasonable runway before beginning to charge for the API (to give third party clients enough time to adjust their subscription customers who may have just paid for a year), and charge a reasonable price.

Two months before starting to charge $0.24 per 1,000 requests is nothing but unreasonable.

I wish Reddit had just plainly said, “We don’t want third party clients anymore.” This whole thing would’ve been cleaner. Still bad, but I don’t think it would’ve been nearly as ugly.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#166
post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server

I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#168
post #152

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Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

There are plenty of good critiques of the Fediverse, but the one you just made it true of every single website.

Maybe they think the next "internet" needs to be entirely P2P or something?

Either way Fediverse has its problems but it's the best "old internet" i've seen in a long time. Lemmy and Kbin are just the start. I'm excited to see where it goes. Developing for the Fediverse is fun, frankly.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#169
post #146
post #63

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I think so. Though it’s not nearly as sophisticated as you might think. Are you interested in hosting an instance of it?

What will they do if many people do. Make the site inaccessible without signing in?

Even LinkedIn has not gone quite this far, usually the first page is viewable without logging in.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#170
post #72

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Nothing. Apollo was less than 1% of users. It would be interesting to a see a survey to see what population of Reddit was affected by these changes or cared.

I think the bigger issue is that Apollo (and other apps such as RIF) were amazing tools for moderators, with the official app lacking a lot of features the unofficial clients had.

barely any moderator uses mobile for moderating, it's absolutely horrible, even with third party tools

most of the "power users" on the reddit (and I'd guess every other website) are good old fashioned desktop users

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