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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by denton-scratch »

kwanbix wrote: post #107
acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

I really don't like to use Edge, and I don't like imposed changes, however if you read the article, it says that it can be turned off, or am I missing something? "Ultimately though, if this experience isn't right for you, you can turn off this feature the first time it launches in Microsoft Edge, and then in Outlook settings at any time after that."

> or am I missing something?

Yes, you're missing the fact that the user ALREADY set the default browser to something other than Edge, and Outhouse is now going to ignore your declared preference "for your convenience".

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Anarch157a »

kjellsbells wrote: post #42
rationalist wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Bill Gates still involved with Microsoft, I thought he retired to run his foundation?

He's completely gone from Microsoft. To invoke Gates now on a anti-Microsoft screed would be missing the point. If anyone has beef with Microsoft about Windows, their ire is better directed at Panos Panay and Satya Nadella.

I disagree. The company's DNA and general approach to the market was set by Gates 40 years ago, the culture he established still stands, so invoking him when criticising MS for it's monopolistic practices is still valid.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by chillbill »

userbinator wrote: post #10

Microsoft is always striving to improve and streamline our product experiences—offering a new way to use the classic Microsoft Outlook app on Windows and the Microsoft Edge web browser. to help you stay engaged in conversations as you browse the web. I wonder if the people who write this sort of BS-filled prose really believe in what they're writing. To be completely honest, the style almost sounds like LLM output.

It’s the other way around: LLM output sounds like (and is) BS people wrote earlier.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by TX81Z »

lostmsu wrote: post #159
TX81Z wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think people have started using “dark pattern” to mean any UX decisions they disagree with. There is a hugely substantive difference between this feature being on by default and say, making a ”reject tracking” button in 2 point grey font. Dark patterns are primarily things that if presented equally would result in a different decision which often go directly against the users self interest. I don’t see that here.

The dark pattern is redirecting Google search to Apple maps.

Ok, I can agree there, I thought they meant the search bar suggestions which is maybe annoying but not misleading or controlling.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #119
hospitalJail wrote: post #94

The final straw for me and Windows was when I took the time to remove some annoying feature, cortana or edge, can't remember. Then an update replaced my work. It wasnt some 'uninstall program', but a multi-step process that involved registry editing. I don't feel like I have control over Windows.

I don't know if it's still happening, but for a while windows updates were helpfully "fixing" the EFI boot partition (or maybe it was a boot firmware thing, I never figured it out) by making windows primary and breaking my Linux entry . My friends would be like "do you want to play games?" and I'd be like "yeah hang on while I make some boot media so I can recover afterwards."

This bullshit still happens with the latest version of Windows 11. I found that I had to demote Windows Boot Manager to a lower position in my EFI boot order, whereas removing it completely from my boot order and removing the boot entry cause Windows to install itself as first priority the moment it booted. I have not tried retaining the boot entry (skipping efibootmgr -b0000 -B) but removing it from the boot order (efibootmgr -o 0001).

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by hackernewds »

afiori wrote: post #154
mikepurvis wrote: post #37

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

This is what I want personally. I use different browsers for different things: let me fucking chose which browser to use. I am currently wondering how easy it would be to build a "shim browser" that you can set as default but does not actually open the page, it only list the urls apps tried to open and lets you copy them to whichever browser you prefer.

Seems like a dark pattern. Should have a "Choose this everytime" option, and you and I are both happy

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Timon3 »

rjh29 wrote: post #147
darreninthenet wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing... I have limited time for gaming and when I want to play I just want to sit down and play. My days of sodding about with (the equivalent of) autoexec.bat, config.sys, QEMM configurations, drivers and IRQ allocations are way way behind me for one when one of these combos of drivers and scripts doesn't work, or my game isn't supported, and I just want to spend a hour or two gaming to chill out.

Steam on Linux is like that 99% of the time. Download the game and play it.

Better yet, check reports of other users in ProtonDB: https://www.protondb.com/

They are not necessarily applicable to everyone, but most of the time they are accurate. Makes it easy to see whether setting it all up under Linux is worth it for your library.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Longlius »

frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

Windows has basically already been relegated to an OS I run on a PC dedicated just for gaming. I do all my serious computing on a mac now and my windows PC is a glorified game console.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Faaak »

rjh29 wrote: post #147
darreninthenet wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing... I have limited time for gaming and when I want to play I just want to sit down and play. My days of sodding about with (the equivalent of) autoexec.bat, config.sys, QEMM configurations, drivers and IRQ allocations are way way behind me for one when one of these combos of drivers and scripts doesn't work, or my game isn't supported, and I just want to spend a hour or two gaming to chill out.

Steam on Linux is like that 99% of the time. Download the game and play it.

I didn't even know about this when I installed steam on Linux in order to play two games. "Nice, they support linux" I thought. It wasn't until the third time that I understood that they were windows games supported by steam/wine
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