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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by jacquesm »

TillE wrote: post #150
jacquesm wrote: post #142

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The Apple representative may have been mistaken, but they did represent Apple and as such have very clearly overruled the guidelines. It should have ended there. The degree to which people will twist themselves into pretzels to defend mega-corps is something I find hard to understand, for this guy it is their life line and for Apple it is a non-issue. Apple doesn't get to hide behind their own guidelines if even thei…

It's unfortunate confusion, but a mistake from an employee is not a policy commitment. If Tim Cook said it, sure, but a low-level "representative" is just someone doing a job.

Legally speaking this is incorrect.

The company can delegate people to interact with the outside world and those people have the ability to bind the company. If they mess up beyond their pay grade then the company may have recourse on them but the company may well still be bound externally.

You still have to check if the functionary is an 'authorized agent' but if they misrepresent themselves as such then the company may well have a problem if you had no reason to believe otherwise (for instance: because of their job title or because someone with signing authority delegated the interaction with you). Such 'apparent authority' (of which this may well be a case) is the source of much confusion and many lawsuits.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by predictabl3 »

threeseed wrote: post #95
max_ wrote: post #47

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You can always give people an effective way to sideload applications.

Which will unravel the App Store. Because the benefits of side loading on iOS are so massive that everyone will use it i.e. you can use private APIs, bypass Apple's privacy controls, implement device tracking, harvest data e.g. contacts. It's going to be a huge transfer of power and wealth back to the likes of Meta, Epic etc

I swear to God iOS users just act like Android doesn't exist sometimes

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by UncleMeat »

threeseed wrote: post #95
max_ wrote: post #47

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You can always give people an effective way to sideload applications.

Which will unravel the App Store. Because the benefits of side loading on iOS are so massive that everyone will use it i.e. you can use private APIs, bypass Apple's privacy controls, implement device tracking, harvest data e.g. contacts. It's going to be a huge transfer of power and wealth back to the likes of Meta, Epic etc

Android has had sideloading forever, yet the Play Store still is the most popular store by miles.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

colesantiago wrote: post #33
photonerd wrote: post #32

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The original idea behind NFTs is fine. Selling links to JPEGs was not the purpose. I’ve seen them used sensibly for shipment tracking, and such like. They’re great for that.

> I’ve seen them used sensibly for shipment tracking. Why do this when the current system already handles this? This is no unique usecase.

This is true of all crypto, to be fair.

Hashing and hash stores are not unique, or particularly original, so really this is just applying common crypto tooling/standards to an existing problem.

It has benefits when you look at it like that.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

Retr0id wrote: post #35
photonerd wrote: post #32

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The original idea behind NFTs is fine. Selling links to JPEGs was not the purpose. I’ve seen them used sensibly for shipment tracking, and such like. They’re great for that.

Could you elaborate? There are a lot of proposed NFT usecases that sound superficially useful (e.g. magically preventing secondary sales of event tickets), but don't actually solve any real problems when you think about it properly.

In the case of shipping it was about providing a cryptographically verifiable chain of custody for each shipment.

It’s just a cryptographic enhancement of existing systems, but a nice use of the tech (standardized rather than proprietary too).

One company also used smart contracts to update other systems & such automatically. It was quite a nice system, crypto-based or not.

Personally, as a huge crypto skeptic (and I have worked in the space), I think this kind of use has much more long term utility than the gold rush value stores.

The ticket thing you mention could be useful, but I’ve never seen an implementation that was worth any company (let alone Ticketmaster) bothering with. It “solves” a mostly solved problem.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

rchaud wrote: post #69
photonerd wrote: post #32

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The original idea behind NFTs is fine. Selling links to JPEGs was not the purpose. I’ve seen them used sensibly for shipment tracking, and such like. They’re great for that.

Now that the jpeg craze is dead, capital should be allocating itself towards more virtuous NFT use cases, should it not? That's where economic activity in an efficient market would move towards. The marketplace decides what the purpose is. The use case people wanted was an easy way to launder real money into jpegs of arbitrarily set ETH values. Now that the PPP loan and ZIRP era is over, the bottom has fallen out of…

The top shot one was functionally identical to the jpegs, just for video clips.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

evandale wrote: post #64
derefr wrote: post #57

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> then your real issue is that the shipment or its contents get stolen No, the chain-of-provenance use-case is to prevent people from being able to sell grey-market products while claiming that they're official products. E.g. selling iPhones built out of reconstituted parts from iPhones that were pickpocketed from their owners and then scrapped for parts. (Yes, this is a big issue — Google "my stolen phone ended up i…

This might be simplistic or ignorant - but does the essential core of crypto boil down to having a public trust ledger? Could a use case of crypto (and NFTs) be a replacement for PGP? This whole signing a physical product to prove it's official kind of sounds like PGP but I only have a 10000 foot view and don't know much about PGP other than you sign stuff and people can cryptographically verify that you actually sig…

Doesn’t have to be public (though that’s desirable) but it does have to be accessible by any user to really have value.

So you could have a ledger that was only accessible to… say members/subscribers/users of a service. As long as everyone involved can see it, it serves the purpose.

But public is always nice

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

api wrote: post #55
photonerd wrote: post #31

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I mean anyone who would work on or with a google platform certainly isn’t. They’re the least cypherpunk, most bland and corporate, evil tech corp I can think of that makes consumer hardware outside of MAYBE Meta.

It'd be nice if there were a Linux laptop option that didn't sound like a jet engine taking off every time you do anything serious with it.

Ironically, the best Linux laptop I’ve ever had was an old MacBook.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

newaccount74 wrote: post #144
photonerd wrote: post #29

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They have 31% of the market, not even a third. They’re not even in the same league as what MS was doing. At the time of the EU vs MS suit they had a 91% market share , and had only recently come down from a fraction over 95% THAT is why the EU took action. Apple isn’t in a monopoly position in phones at all , they’re not even the dominant OS. What they are, is the one that makes the most money.

You are right that Apple does not have a monopoly on phones. But that does not mean that their behaviour is not anti-competitive.

Almost all companies behavior is anti-competitive in some way. They rarely (tho occasionally) try to promote competition.

Requiring Play services so much is anti-competitive by Google.

Anti-competitive behavior isn’t, by itself, an issue. At least… it’s only an issue ideologically speaking.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by photonerd »

Gareth321 wrote: post #59
photonerd wrote: post #30

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The horror! How could the EU... allow me to install software on my little pocket computer. Those monsters!

I’ll sign you up for tech support for every boomer & grandma that gets scammed then, shall I?
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