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Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by epcoa »

redox99 wrote: post #124
sgtnoodle wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A coffee grinder will quickly make a lot of really fine salt. I do that when I need to heat treat 3D printed parts to improve their material strength. You pack the part into fine salt, bake it at the original extrusion temperature, then slowly let it cool down. The plastic liquefies, and the packed salt holds its shape.

That'll probably really fuck up a coffee grinder, so make sure you don't use it for coffee.

I would assume they are talking about a blade "coffee" grinder, which is ironically terrible for coffee.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by hutzlibu »

gruez wrote: post #122
renw0rp wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've asked my mother the exact same question a couple of weeks ago. She said, that as salt is hygroscopic "table salt" comes with anti-cacking agents. Salt which comes as larger crystals doesn't need them.

What's wrong with the anti-caking agents?

They are toxic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ferrocyanide

The amount is small enough, that it is supposed to do no harm, but I just prefer my salt without cyanide.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by DiabloD3 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #158

Reminder that PFAS is so pervasive that researchers can't design studies with a proper control group. i.e. they virtually cannot find anyone in the world without PFAS in their blood. Dupont/3M did (and continue to do) a level of harm on par with CFCs and leaded gasoline, with complete regulatory impunity. At some point the ICC needs to extend the crimes against humanity/nature to something like crimes against Human H…

I agree.

However, how do you go after people who have so much money they can literally buy their way out of any appropriate punishment? We need something stronger than the ICC.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by amelius »

hutzlibu wrote: post #162
gruez wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with the anti-caking agents?

They are toxic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ferrocyanide The amount is small enough, that it is supposed to do no harm, but I just prefer my salt without cyanide.

I guess you will still get it in most restaurants.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by m_mueller »

sgtnoodle wrote: post #67
InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

That's why I take out a dozen or so unpopped kernels before popping the rest. It's easier to throw them right in the trash, rather than have to pick them out of the rest of the popped corn.

wait, how can you differentiate the unpopped from the yet to pop? (tbh. so far I'm just a premade popcorn buyer, so ELI5...)

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by Jolter »

m_mueller wrote: post #166
sgtnoodle wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I take out a dozen or so unpopped kernels before popping the rest. It's easier to throw them right in the trash, rather than have to pick them out of the rest of the popped corn.

wait, how can you differentiate the unpopped from the yet to pop? (tbh. so far I'm just a premade popcorn buyer, so ELI5...)

whoosh

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by hutzlibu »

amelius wrote: post #165
hutzlibu wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are toxic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ferrocyanide The amount is small enough, that it is supposed to do no harm, but I just prefer my salt without cyanide.

I guess you will still get it in most restaurants.

As well as in any processed food I am buying, yes I am aware of that. But when I have the choice, I prefer the non toxic salt (and it is still mindblowing to me, how it became normal to add cyanide to salt in the first place).

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by mklarmann »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #33

Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

I love popcorn. And this might be arrogant. As I might come around like the extremist (that I am). But I am reading here between the lines, that even with popcorn, there is a lot that could be done better for the environment: - gas is not renewable. I hope we can get away from that - once popping starts you turn of the stove, does this mean you have fairly solid pans that keep the heat long? I don't think that is sustainable either - You put butter in the popcorn? Well that is also not sustainable either. - Then you add Parmesan, well that makes it even worse. - You use a paper towel, that you toss away

Why do we just happen to glance over those issues so easily?

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Post by autoexec »

leetrout wrote: post #4

Something I learned a few weeks ago: Put 1/3 cup kernels in a large brown paper lunch bag and fold the top down several times. Microwave as normal, bag standing up, listening for pops to slow down. Air pops in the bag with no issues. Salt (and ghee) after you dump it in the bowl. I have stopped using my whirlypopper.

I'll give this try, although after reading about the problem with PFAS and microwave popcorn a few months ago I switched to Jiffy pop and it's pretty fun.
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