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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by john-radio »

anigbrowl wrote: post #124
civilitty wrote: post #73

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Finally, I can fulfill my destiny of taking over r/television and banning anyone who says anything positive about a show with a laugh track. It should never have been allowed to begin with.

More seriously, the other day someone spent significant time and effort trying to convince me that the new version of The Wonder Years featuring a black family was anti-white propaganda by The Jews. If he's a reddit user I'm sure he'd love to mod a sub with such a large community.

Ohhh, it's a new version of The Wonder Years... I had never seen the original show, but I was vaguely aware of it, and it was playing in the gym the other day and I saw the main characters being black and I felt like I was deep in the Mandela Effect or something.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

deelowe wrote: post #64
mjamesaustin wrote: post #23

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I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/c…

Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?

Problem easily solved: start your own instance, or find one that doesn't block other instances...

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by revscat »

ahepp wrote: post #66
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

If mods on Reddit really believed they were irreplaceable, wouldn’t it make more sense to protest by quitting?

No one is claiming to be irreplaceable, although if you have evidence to the contrary you're welcome to provide it.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by visarga »

x86x87 wrote: post #149
p4bl0 wrote: post #7

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Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

If this was France the mods would already be building a guillotine

That's how The Reign of Terror was invented.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Convolutional »

Reddit management is in the process of learning from what had seemed the boon of unpaid labor, that the struggle of management and ownership against the unpaid moderator workers is over control of the means of production and the relations of production.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by faangsticle »

mulletbum wrote: post #32
p4bl0 wrote: post #7

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Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee. People who don't like what Reddit is doing should stop showing up. Mods who don't like it should stop moderating. It's as simple as that, if enough people agree, Reddit will be no more. I will bet Reddit will be just fine.

They work for reddit for free. You can work for someone without an employment contract or official relationship.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Plasmoid2000ad »

anthonypasq wrote: post #53
EA-3167 wrote: post #2

That's a hell of a way to treat the volunteers who make the existence of that site possible.

reddit moderators have an unbelievably inflated sense of their worth, which is why they thought this blackout was going to accomplish anything in the first place. I assure you, there is a line around the block of people clamoring to become mods. There's a reason its nigh impossible to become a mod of a big sub, the people that are doing it really like doing it and dont want more people joining to dilute their share o…

But many subreddits took a vote before taking action, so it's not like the moderators did this out of the blue.

The subreddit model seems to me to work as a combination of moderators setting and enforcing some rules, users submitting content (hopefully good) and users upvoting and commenting on content.

If the mods are wrong on all of this, then the users who voted to blackout either weren't contributing much or will back down and things will go back to business as usual. But it's also possible that replacing the mods will just lead to many of the users who voted to blackout taking further action. A subreddit without content or with protesting users posting spam isn't fixed by adding more mods.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by nanidin »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #67
ramesh31 wrote: post #57

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>The power-tripping is payment in itself for those types. As if the current mods are any different? Honestly I don't mind this at all. The big subreddits have become so ossified in their power structures, that each community is its' own little fiefdom now. There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation, and some kind of site…

>There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation Whenever I see this sentiment I'm honestly stumped as to how anyone's experience can be so different from mine. What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly al…

My local subreddit has become a proxy for /r/fuckcars and is also pushing a strong pro-new-airport narrative, among other things. There is a subreddit rule against “creating drama in the community” and any comment against the hive mind on these topics is interpreted by the mods as creating drama and removed, sometimes including a temporary ban. They more or less enforce the echo chamber. Disagreement is futile.

Meanwhile, reporting comments that clearly violate the subreddit rules for things like ad-hominem attacks and spam in turn get the reporter reported to Reddit admins for abusing the report button.

From my perspective a few of the elder mods stepped down and were replaced by activist mods that are moderating with strong, shameless ego to reinforce their preferred viewpoints and narrative.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by bnralt »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #123
bnralt wrote: post #72

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8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

> If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd probably laugh. That's technically true, but that's because nobody today really thinks about Reddit AMAs, because there are fairly few of them and they're mostly lousy. When they employed Victoria, AMAs were frequent and involved high-profile public figures engaging with the users i…

> With the result that Reddit lost a popular, interesting feature and a lot of cultural relevance.

Looking through /r/IAMA, and I can't say that I'm seeing that. If you look through the top voted AMA's of all time there, the vast majority are some years after Victoria's departure. Comparing those to the few on there from prior to her departure doesn't seem to show much of a difference, at least from what I can tell.

It does seem like the sub peaked a few years back, but again, that was still several years after her departure.

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