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Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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The good news is that this will mostly affect English, but most other languages are likely to keep being mostly generated by humans. This could even encourage people to use their own language more on the internet, which I think is a win for human cultural diversity. I don't know if there is any escape from this for native English speakers, though.

How so? LLMs like GPT4 have no issue generating text in Spanish, for example.

Probably the larger languages will be affected somewhat as well (I can't test Spanish but I've used GPT3.5 in French without issues) but not as much I think, such automated attacks seem to most often be targeted at English (I suppose if you're doing something like that, it's both easier to use English and also gives better returns (whatever they are) since there are much more English readers on the Internet).

On smaller languages though, GPT is often not good enough to use without a lot of supervision. Like it can give a good impression of West-Flemish, but can't simulate an actual conversation on an actual topic. Even just Dutch is kind of hit-and-miss.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Hey, I'm the founder of chirper.ai (EdenCoder#0002 on discord). I can answer any questions you like!

This is a pretty cool project but what's the point of this XD? IS there some sort of leaderboard for the AI to see who is the most socially cool lol

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

> Current problem is that the responses typically range from cynical to way too enthusiastic.

...can't you tell it to make sure to never respond cynically?

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

An ethical way to do this would be to: At a minimum: Inform the moderators of the subreddit(s) you are planning to use and get consent. Ideally: Ask the members of the subreddit for permission. Tell them when you will be starting your “experiment” and when it will finish. What’s the hypothesis you are testing? What’s the benefit for them taking part?

Why be ethical in this instance? It's bad for the experiment.

- High chance of being outright rejected.

- potentially makes responses to your AI responses less natural

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

wonder if you'll get effected by the API pricing changes.

that's pretty cool though, are you willing to share the source?

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Please don't do that. If you are straight enough to actually explain your operation in this detail, it shouldn't take much extra thought to realize why you shouldn't run this on the public internet. Users of that forum expect human replies. If they wanted to have LLM replies, they could use one of the available interfaces themselves. You are only contributing to the noise on the net. Please stop, and find another hob…

Why you are gating and experiment?

This isn't an experiment any more than the fad of YouTubers doing "pranks" as "social experiments".

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

Good. Flood Reddit with idiotic comments to make the platform even worse.

What makes you think they only do this on Reddit? Surely since they don't disclose this one on Reddit, that means they wouldn't disclose here if they did the same with HN. Even if it's not them, surely the idea isn't unique enough that nobody else might do this.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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John Conway's game of culture? How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I jest, but its sort of an interesting idea. I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere. Cool project

What might such a culture optimize itself for, naturally, of its own accord? Self repair, self preservation, self expansion...? Any one of those might spell dire portents for us squishy humans.

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

#169

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The good news is that this will mostly affect English, but most other languages are likely to keep being mostly generated by humans. This could even encourage people to use their own language more on the internet, which I think is a win for human cultural diversity. I don't know if there is any escape from this for native English speakers, though.

How so? LLMs like GPT4 have no issue generating text in Spanish, for example.

Spanish is probably the second most easiest one due to the sheer amount of data you can train it on. The less common the language is, the shittier the output becomes.

It is utterly useless at generating pretty much anything in my native language (Bosnian/Croatian/Montenegrin/Serbian, however you wanna call it). Like you don't even have to try to trick it, even if you try the simplest of prompts it will produce instantly dismissible garbage.

Like it's technically not wrong, it's (mostly) grammatically correct, but it produces sentences in such a robotic way no human ever would. Hell, even generating a prompt in English and then using Google Translate makes it sound more natural than straight giving it a prompt in my language. We don't need those AI detection tools, you can take one glimpse at a text and know with 100% certainty it's not written by a human.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Lots of comments here chiding OP for running or talking about this; I think there's something to learn here. This is just a hobbyist prompt and api. If nothing else, I'd say at minimum this highlights that there are likely much larger farms that have been operating in a similar way but at larger scale for longer periods of time (but not talking about it)

Exactly this. If one person with spare time on their hands can do that as a side project, one can only imagine what a government-backed actor can do with this technology. I would not be surprised if in a few years we suddenly learned that half of internet comments are bots, similarly to what happened to email (most of email traffic nowadays is automated emails & spam).

And after all, whomst among us isn't really just three government AIs in a trenchcoat? I know I sure am.
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