Rowan Atkinson on free speech (2012) [video]

Post by satisfice » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 3:11 PM UTC

djur wrote: post #132

satisfice wrote: post #128

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I’ve been alive a long time and I never went to a meeting where this was discussed or decided. I’ve never heard of such a meeting. And it doesn’t make sense. If you spend part of your life in a certain identity, and you interact with people under that identity, and they know you that way, banning people from talking about you in that identity is discourteous to THEM. You are laying a claim on other people’s minds tha…

OK, so if someone got married and changed their last name, you would feel OK continuing to refer to them by their maiden name? Even if they no longer used that name and asked you to use their new name? You wouldn't expect any kind of social consequences for that?

Post by jopython » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 4:35 PM UTC

karaterobot wrote: post #63

A couple years ago, somebody remarked to me, "oh, you're one of those free speech guys, aren't you?" and I realized it was meant as an insult. Yes, I guess so! I'm not sure what changed, but I doubt that would ever have happened a few decades ago. You might have argued about the practical limits of free speech (shouting fire in a theater, Potter Stewart's obscenity test, etc.) but you would never hear someone say tha…

Post by Breza » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 12:39 PM UTC

scoofy wrote: post #126

revelio wrote: post #77

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Censorship isn't "not listening", it's stopping other people from listening.

It's more complicated than that. If my comments on news.ycombinator.com are removed, am I being censored or just asked to leave a publicly accessible private venue. That is to say, where do free speech zones begin, publicly accessible private areas areas end, and even public right-of-ways end? It's really a complex question when you delve into nuance, and I think it's worthwhile to do that, even for people who genuin…