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Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by bobsomers »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #22
tomtheelder wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their stuff is design art first and foremost. Usually they are also high quality, functional products as well, but someone would buy this if they think it’s beautiful, not for practical purposes.

I disagree, I find the TX-6 and OB-4 at least highly functional tools without peers. There are no mixers with the function of the TX-6 and the next closest comparables are still near the same price with several major gaps. OB-4: The only other one I found which isn't just a bt hifi and tries to be an actual studio monitor is the iLoud, there is a new product from Fender as well. I also have the iLoud and stopped usin…

Eh, I feel like most people would never use 80% of the "features" of the TX-6, which mostly feel like bolt-on justifications for its price tag. If you want a super portable mixer, something like the 1010 Bluebox is infinitely better at being a proper mixer than the TX-6 is, for half the price.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by bobsomers »

joemi wrote: post #26
wahnfrieden wrote: post #13

I'll stick with my iPhone + TX-6 for multitrack recording. The TX-6 has definitely been worth the $1500. re: size: It's fine for me, I adjusted quickly to the knobs. They can be turned without fully gripping your fingers around their sides. The size is a feature to me as I have a fully battery powered portable setup that sizes down enough that I can easily carry the parts on my person without a bag.

You don't find the TX-6 too small? That's what's preventing me from even considering buying it. If it were a little bigger, I'd be dreaming about getting it, or perhaps even actually getting it.

Look at the 1010music Bluebox. It's about twice the size of the TX-6, half the price, and infinitely more usable as an actual mixer and multitrack recorder.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by stigi »

wmf wrote: post #90
moron4hire wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These devices are ostensibly toys for rich people, but really more like advertisements for their product design services. You're supposed to see the TP-7 as a CEO of a hardware startup and want to hire Teenage Engineering to design the shell to go around your prototype.

What have they designed besides the Playdate?

There's a whole page dedicated to it: https://teenage.engineering/designs/

Some notables:

  The Playdate (as mentioned)
  The Ikea Frevens series
  Impossible I-1 instant camera
  Mayku 3D printer

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by TylerE »

quirino wrote: post #153
throwaway675309 wrote: post #147

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It's a drab gray asymmetrical block with pastel colors, I do not understand people who think that teenage engineering possesses any aesthetic sensibilities whatsoever. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder.

I personally find their products beautiful, they remind me a lot of Dieter Rams. Which designs would you consider aesthetically pleasing?

It looks like an off-brand 90s gaming console to me.

As for a design I personally consider timeless… how about the Lamy 2000 fountain pen?

Gorgeous bauhaus design, and completely user disassembleable by hand with 0 tools. The body is made from Makrolon, which is fiberglass infused lexan. Feels great in the hand, with a slight warmth and texture, and practically indestructable.

Writes like a dream, too. Been in continuous production for over 60 years.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/v2YAAOSwQr9hMHAN/s-l1600.jpg

Video of dissasembly https://youtu.be/x7DQSJHSaHE

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by etwigg »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #119

It's beautiful and sparks joy. But a Zoom F3 is a strictly superior device in all dimensions and costs $350. This recorder doesn't even support microSD cards or replaceable batteries. It's fundamentally unserious.

Every oral historian podcast that I listen to (Marc Maron WTF, Joe Pug Working Songwriter, I'm sure others) has lost incredibly valuable recordings on account of not pressing the button. I think the physical affordance of the spinning wheel is invaluable, along with the simple VU meter. The extravagance of the wheel is closer to the importance of a gun safety in that context.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by amoss »

mandmandam wrote: post #53
larvaetron wrote: post #42

I feel like I'm the only person who isn't a fan of Teenage Engineering's design. It's all a bit too uncanny valley for me.

You are not. It's like Patrick Bateman's Fisher-Price to me. This thing in particular is purely for posers, even more than their other stuff. I find it condescending, and nebulously offensive.

> Patrick Bateman's Fisher-Price

Oh wow, that one is going in the memory bank for future use.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by knifie_spoonie »

asimpletune wrote: post #63

If Wes Anderson were an Engineer I think he'd make stuff like this. Take a look at their new microphone as well https://teenage.engineering/products/cm-15

> self noise: 14 dBA

That's really not very good, especially for the price they're charging. I'm starting to sense a theme.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by codr7 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #144
ilyt wrote: post #131

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It honestly looks like "we just keep asking for more for less and people keep paying that"

It's like a Leica camera. You buy one to be seen with it, not so much to use it. If you want the ultimate in a retro-cool field recorder, look for a Nagra IV. https://www.nagraaudio.com/product/nagra-iv-family/

Have you ever used a Leica camera?

I did for a long time, and I haven't found anything that even comes close, at any price.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by codr7 »

dagmx wrote: post #158
SoftTalker wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like a Leica camera. You buy one to be seen with it, not so much to use it. If you want the ultimate in a retro-cool field recorder, look for a Nagra IV. https://www.nagraaudio.com/product/nagra-iv-family/

Leica’s are a fairly unique shooting experience though due to being basically the only rangefinders left. Though I’d also argue you could get a Fuji X100 series and it replicates the experience really well.

Not even close from my experience, having used both.

Re: TP–7 Field Recorder

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #119

It's beautiful and sparks joy. But a Zoom F3 is a strictly superior device in all dimensions and costs $350. This recorder doesn't even support microSD cards or replaceable batteries. It's fundamentally unserious.

People are talking about the beauty of the design of the TP-7 and I think that is a big part of the appeal, I don't know anything about either of these tools, I am totally ready to believe the Zoom F3 is superior BUT when I look at the TP-7 I have some immediate understandings of how to use it (wheel requires a couple seconds) when I look at the Zoom F3 I don't get that feeling.

That said based on the Zoom F3 site I do want one and it is also affordable for me, whereas the TP-7 is way too much for me to afford.

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