My big bank employer banned CGPT pretty quickly. Even bing.com is blocked now.
They will eventually end up switching to some Azure based ChatGPT that's 'private', along those lines.
Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees
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#162Funnily enough our company will start to roll out an internal ChatGPT UI with an agreement with Azure on not to use the data for training etc, where we would be allowed to share internal data.
Aren't you still just trusting that they won't "accidentally leak" all that data to OpenAI for training?
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#163I'm not suggesting the concerns aren't valid, but I guess I don't understand why this same principal isn't applied to other internet connected / cloud software? Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs? What is it about an AI chat bots that makes the risk of a data leak so much higher? Is something about OpenAI's ToS? Or it's relative infancy?
This probably isn't at the top of the list of serious concerns, but one problem that's kind of unique to AI is that in general, AI-generated content isn't eligible for copyright protection. Companies might worry about losing copyright on certain things if someone finds out that a lazy employee didn't actually create the content themselves.
Companies generally tend to be wary of cloud services due to data leak concerns. At the very least, they like to be in control of the decision about which services are approved and which are not.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have seen companies have rules about (or against) cloud computing in general. I remember when decent web-based translation services first came out, and the guidance from BigCorp was to not use them for anything work-related. From what I personally have seen, this sort of guidance remains. When companies do use things like Google Docs or Microsoft Office365, they likely have some specific contract in place with Goog…
I work for a company who for a very long time was strongly opposed to employees using any cloud-based infrastructure, including OS or programming language package managers (eg. apt-get, Pip for Python, etc), opting to host their own instance if possible and disallowing usage if not possible. IT did finally cave and switch to Office365, which has been slowly opening the floodgates to other services being allowed.
The gets into some really interesting corporate governance issues.
The cloud is a terrible bet for many large companies. The benefits are minimal while the risks are huge, however what’s in the best interest for the company is only tangentially related to what happens.
It’s really difficult to ensure companies actually take low probability risks seriously. A 1% chance to lose 10 billion dollars is an easy bet for upper management to make when their personal risks and rewards don’t line up with the company’s risks and rewards.
Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees
#165Companies banning the use of ChatGPT level tools going forward will find the rules either flouted, subverted or the employees going elsewhere. Of course there is a duty on employees to be professional - the latter will be the ones taking up opportunities at non-legacy/dinosaur corporations that think they can command the waves. The answer is to sort your processes, security and training out - new AI is here to stay,…
Samsung is manufacturing real high-tech things, lots of them. GPT just launders things that other people have created. It isn't high-tech.
What would impact the world economy more? OpenAI disappearing (no one would notice) or Samsung disappearing?
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That’s because OpenAI can use any data that you send to chatgpt for training purposes. [0] They don’t do it with their APIs btw. “(c) Use of Content to Improve Services. We do not use Content that you provide to or receive from our API (“API Content”) to develop or improve our Services. We may use Content from Services other than our API (“Non-API Content”) to help develop and improve our Services. You can read more…
There is an option in ChatGPT that you can use to turn that off. > Chat History & Training Save new chats to your history and allow them to be used to improve ChatGPT via model training. Unsaved chats will be deleted from our systems within 30 days.
I have not used ChatGPT, so I need to ask: What is the default?
Most people do not change most default options. And companies know this.
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#167My advice to anyone running a company atm - don't let your IT security folks do this. They will initially want to, and it will be a huge mistake.
Are you suggesting companies put their company confidential information into a system that will use it for training and other purposes?
Yes
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
simple reason. I can refactor the codebase in a dozen different ways in a matter of seconds and choose the best one to work on. I can a summon a large volume of unit tests, descriptive logging statements etc. I can also just dump the logs and it will 9/10 times tell you right away what the issue is and how you can resolve it. i.e basically you can do a lot of work in just a matter of hours. Once you taste the product…
Employees have been prevented (by rule) from doing things that would make them more productive for a long time. For a trivial example, programmers who are proficient in Emacs not being allowed to install and use Emacs. I still fail to see why employees will now choose to disregard this particular rule , and either disobey or quit.
Honestly, "no Emacs" is one rule that would make me quit.
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#169My advice to anyone running a company atm - don't let your IT security folks do this. They will initially want to, and it will be a huge mistake.
Yea, best to lean on legal, who will ask "who owns intellectual property written by openAI?" and look at the USPTO decision and the supreme court refusal to grant cert[1] and decide "not us."
[1]: https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-rejects-compu...
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Why? It’s a valid concern in my opinion. You’re feeding OpenAI your intellectual property and just hoping they don’t do anything with it. I have the same concerns with Microsoft’s TypeScript playground
Yes, 20 lines of transforming jsons from one form to another are exactly what OpenAI employees are looking for in all the data they're gathering. How will my company survive after they get their hands on this?
Good opsec/appsec requires doing things that seem unnecessary. And it depends on the context. Passing a private key or raw text customer password to any type of online tool is never a good idea.