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I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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glitchc wrote: post #13
wiredone wrote: post #6

Honestly, while I believe a lot of the perspective shared, there always seems to be a huge lack of objective assessment of options for these folks. In tech there are many incredibly high paying jobs - taking control over your situation has a low bar. if you don’t like your manager, taking the view that if you escalate a formal complaint to HR (in doing so lose all trust you manager and HR may have in you), you’ll be…

People should absolutely call out toxic work environments as just that. What's lacking is legislation protecting employee rights. Your approach is to cut and run, but ultimately people need to raise their voice for legislation to exist.

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Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by Moneyyyyy »

no_wizard wrote: post #70
wiredone wrote: post #6

Honestly, while I believe a lot of the perspective shared, there always seems to be a huge lack of objective assessment of options for these folks. In tech there are many incredibly high paying jobs - taking control over your situation has a low bar. if you don’t like your manager, taking the view that if you escalate a formal complaint to HR (in doing so lose all trust you manager and HR may have in you), you’ll be…

I have a different take: Be the change you want to be. Everyone just says "leave" but what if you have no where to go, and inversely, if everyone is just leaving, then there is no incentive for organizations to change. You can argue its "futile" but the truth is, its not, these things compound, the more people do it, the less it can be swept up and hidden away. Real change is thousands and thousands of people doing s…

If the company is in the USA and leadership doesn't like LGBTQ than there will be no chance one way or the other to change that org

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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pcthrowaway wrote: post #118
lliamander wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that this a perfectly on-topic post and worthy of discussion (in part because it was well written). I was just countering the claim/insuation that people were flagging the story because of their own prejudice against trans people (or whatever). > But the silence from Rune, and dialogue suppression tactics by mystery parties honestly just make me more inclined to believe there is at least a grain of truth in t…

They could point out the inaccuracies or misrepresentations. For example, the claim that 20% of the staff were let go, but 100% of the laid off folk were "of historically marginalized groups. Women, people of color, queer folks, and multiple people on disability and even maternity leave" They could respond with information. Maybe this is a broad enough group and their workforce is unusually diverse, and 90% of their…

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Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by gregw2 »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #118
lliamander wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that this a perfectly on-topic post and worthy of discussion (in part because it was well written). I was just countering the claim/insuation that people were flagging the story because of their own prejudice against trans people (or whatever). > But the silence from Rune, and dialogue suppression tactics by mystery parties honestly just make me more inclined to believe there is at least a grain of truth in t…

They could point out the inaccuracies or misrepresentations. For example, the claim that 20% of the staff were let go, but 100% of the laid off folk were "of historically marginalized groups. Women, people of color, queer folks, and multiple people on disability and even maternity leave" They could respond with information. Maybe this is a broad enough group and their workforce is unusually diverse, and 90% of their…

When someone is suing you, even wrongly (in your view), responding in public is very rarely the legally recommended appropriate thing to do.

I don’t think there is any compelling argument to be made from Ram’s silence.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by Glawen »

Manuel_D wrote: post #68
Waterluvian wrote: post #12

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While it’s unrealistic to believe that every bad thing that happens to you is because of discrimination, being part of a commonly discriminated group has an effect of making everything harder. Lots of people struggle to find a job. Now imagine if on top of that, some additional percentage of jobs are off the table to begin with. In a way, this reminds me of climate change. You can’t usually point to any one event and…

San Francisco and Seattle aren't exactly hotbeds of intolerance. The large-scale studies on discrimination in tech companies did find slight gender discrimination, in favor of women: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3672484

My company has a goal of 35% women in executive position. The thing is that we are working in the industry, you know, factories and machines. This environment does not attract women, we barely have women engineers. That means that any women in engineering willing to take responsibility is fast tracked to management. This was the same at my previous employers.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by fooster »

autoexec wrote: post #152
busterarm wrote: post #146

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I've been in three different unions and never saw anything like that happen. Mostly I saw things like rampant sexual harassment and nepotism at every level. Anyone who so much as squeaked about things being wrong saw management and the union reps team up to screw the person for fucking with the status quo. Heck, at my last job like that, they were cousins/roommates. Unionized workplaces can be just as toxic as any ot…

> Anyone who so much as squeaked about things being wrong saw management and the union reps team up to screw the person for fucking with the status quo... Unionized workplaces can be just as toxic as any other workplace. This is true, but unlike any other workplace, if your union is filled with corruption and nepotism you can vote to change your union leadership or even to disband it entirely and replace it with a ne…

Good luck with that.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

>Normally, my NDA would prohibit me from disclosing this, but as I will demonstrate in this article, it is a contributing factor to the retaliatory actions taken against me and thus covered under Washington State labor protection laws.

I hope the author ran this by a lawyer licensed in the State of Washington before publishing this.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by pc86 »

flangola7 wrote: post #140
pc86 wrote: post #106

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Please actually respond to the points made given their most charitable interpretation, as the guidelines suggest.

They did exactly that, you just don't like it.

No, "don't victim blame" isn't productive discussion, it's meant to end discussion.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by flangola7 »

pc86 wrote: post #168
flangola7 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did exactly that, you just don't like it.

No, "don't victim blame" isn't productive discussion, it's meant to end discussion.

Incorrect. You still just don't like it, and will not accept that it is an accurate statement about your comment. You are not entitled to have others entertain your bad narratives.

Re: I was laid off in retaliation for anti-discrimination whistleblowing

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Post by jimmydddd »

Hoyadonis wrote: post #160
surgical_fire wrote: post #62

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One other thing that is great for your mental health in any job, is treating it as a job and nothing else. Something you do for 40h per week to get a salary to pay your bills. You're not there to make the world a better place, to belong to a family, to improve anything. Just do your job and go back to your life at the end of the day. When you're off work, do your best to forget about it. In fact, always prepare yours…

> You're not there to make the world a better place, to belong to a family, to improve anything. Just do your job and go back to your life at the end of the day. Speak for yourself. I do want to make the world a better place and I'm fortunate enough to have a job where I do that. It's rewarding; my life has purpose during working hours.

Sounds great. What's the job?
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