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Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by sixQuarks »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #108
sixQuarks wrote: post #88

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In addition to head lice and eyelash mites, it might also be useful to point out it is the only drug to win a Nobel Prize for treatment of infectious diseases. Used by BILLIONS of people. May I remind you that you referred to this drug as a horse dewormer before you were called out. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270/

Appeal to authority & false equivalence (apples & oranges); just because it's won a nobel prize doesn't mean it's a miracle cure against the 'rona. I'm already dubious of the article you linked because the title uses appeal to authority (nobel prize winning) and emotional language (new global scourge). I won't disagree that ivermectin improves life expectancy in some of those studies, but it doesn't seem to be effect…

I didn’t even say anything about covid. I was refuting that it should be referenced as horse dewormer. You seem to have some major bias as well.

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by jowdones »

TexanFeller wrote: post #121
skottk wrote: post #113

Had to start researching this when a family member was recently diagnosed. Parkinson's has many forms and many causes. There's a big divide between Parkinson's _disease_ (idiopathic Parkinson's) and Parkinsonism from a variety of sources - stroke, drug-induced, and so on. There are also other conditions, like progressive supranuclear palsy, that are considered either to masquerade as Parkinsonism or to constitute ano…

> Parkinson's has many forms and many causes. A lot of my family were farmers. I've had close relatives die with severe Parkinsons, primarily those that farmed their whole life. Their theory was that it was really exposure to a lot of toxic farm chemicals. I can imagine Parkinsons turning out to be several different conditions with similar symptoms.

My father, an agricultural engineer who worked with herbicides and pesticides for some 30 years, passed away a few days ago from advanced Parkinson's at the age of 82. Now he wasn't exactly in his teens anymore but his 87 years old brother who was a teacher is in fairly good shape for his age while my father became a ghost of a man (in end stage you cannot even swallow anymore).

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by red-iron-pine »

zymhan wrote: post #149
whamlastxmas wrote: post #146

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Cool, let’s make the companies that caused it pay for it

That's why we have the EPA Superfund program https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Superfund

There are a lot of superfund sites, man. And it sucks that the FeddyGov is on the hook to cleanup the mess that big corps make.

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by athoun »

alixanderwang wrote: post #159
athoun wrote: post #138

For those living in the bay area, you should know that the groundwater in many areas is contaminated with TCE due to computer manufacturing industry which used it as a solvent. Dry cleaners are another common culprit of contamination to the groundwater. These groundwater plumes can extend for quite a large distance from the original site of contamination and seep into the first story of residences and buildings throu…

What can I do if I live near one of the red spots? Do air and water filters help?

If you’re in an apartment building, moving to a higher floor would help as it affects the basement and first floor the most.

If you’re in a house, the same mitigations for radon exposure would likely work to reduce TCE as well.

Regularly ventilating your home may also help keep the levels down.

Lastly, there are typically many years of exposure required before you notice any symptoms. So moving would be another viable option.

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by red-iron-pine »

hbarka wrote: post #160
michelb wrote: post #139

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In The Netherlands we have A LOT of farmers with parkinsons. Most, if not all cases seem to be related to Roundup/Glyphosate.

Roundup/Glyphosate is such a nasty chemical. Farmers use it in practice regularly for crop desiccation [1] in order to yield more harvest cycles. Why do we still allow it knowing what we know? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_desiccation

Because cash rules everything around me ("CREAM"), aka dolla dolla bill yall.

Or to put it another way, roundup is made by a large, influential company (Monsanto) and they can pressure regulatory agencies & politicians.

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by potta_coffee »

hbarka wrote: post #160
michelb wrote: post #139

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In The Netherlands we have A LOT of farmers with parkinsons. Most, if not all cases seem to be related to Roundup/Glyphosate.

Roundup/Glyphosate is such a nasty chemical. Farmers use it in practice regularly for crop desiccation [1] in order to yield more harvest cycles. Why do we still allow it knowing what we know? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_desiccation

Monsanto is big money, that's why. Just like everything else in our blown out civilization.

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by karussell »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #115
shadowtree wrote: post #25

Interesting that big flu outbreaks cause a long term spike in Parkinson's - how much more will be traced back to the impact of viruses? Saw that come up as a worry around Covid, seems the loss of smell/taste is a commonality with Parkison. We will not know for a decade or two though, but these biomarkers might help accelerate measuring the impact.

I am currently struggling with the idea of going back to vaping, having quit 3 years ago following covid, because nicotine has consistently shown to be a strong drug for fending off parkinsons.

Do you have any sources? Or did you mean that ironically, because as a smoker you die earlier than the average gets Parkinson's?

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by m463 »

michelb wrote: post #139
TexanFeller wrote: post #121

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> Parkinson's has many forms and many causes. A lot of my family were farmers. I've had close relatives die with severe Parkinsons, primarily those that farmed their whole life. Their theory was that it was really exposure to a lot of toxic farm chemicals. I can imagine Parkinsons turning out to be several different conditions with similar symptoms.

In The Netherlands we have A LOT of farmers with parkinsons. Most, if not all cases seem to be related to Roundup/Glyphosate.

I wonder how much of this gets "downstream" to people eating the food produced.

EDIT: https://www.ewg.org/foodnews/summary.php

The 2023 DIRTY DOZEN

Of the 46 items included in our analysis, these 12 fruits and vegetables were most contaminated with pesticides:

    Strawberries
    Spinach
    Kale, collard and mustard greens
    Peaches
    Pears
    Nectarines
    Apples
    Grapes
    Bell and hot peppers
    Cherries
    Blueberries
    Green beans

Re: Significant breakthrough in search for Parkinson's biomarker

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Post by acchow »

zymhan wrote: post #149
whamlastxmas wrote: post #146

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Cool, let’s make the companies that caused it pay for it

That's why we have the EPA Superfund program https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Superfund

It should be renamed "minifund" given how small the fund is today and how few sites they actually clean up

The reinstatement of the excise tax in 2022 may actually be harmful to its own environment. It's an import tax on crude oil, which will encourage the domestic oil industry leading to an importing of pollution.

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