Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by hurril » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:38 AM UTC

commitpizza wrote: post #141

hurril wrote: post #90

I can understand the outrage over content, wokeness, the direction, etc. But being angry over having to pay for services rendered? Come on. Don't use Netflix (or the alternatives) as a comfy Piratebay. Get it together, we're not children.

Many people already pay for the service. They pay for a multi user account, the problem is that they are cutting off people that are not living under the same roof. Then they require you to pay an additional $8 for each extra member, it that would be the premium cost (approx $19 where I live) and an additional ~$16 if you add two users. That's $35 a month for a service that is filled with woke bs content, 10% of what…

So of the two alternatives: pay $X for a full subscription or pay $X * 0.2 for a shared one, you are choosing to pay $0 because it is annoying to pay money compared to not paying money?

If it's not good enough to warrant either $X or $X * 0.2, then cancel it. I.e.: Netflix sucks, cancel it!

Y'all are defending not paying while still using said service with arguments that don't support your case.

I stopped pirating stuff a good 15 years ago and Spotify and Netflix are both part of the why. Now, they both kinda suck and I might actually cancel Netflix. But you won't find me on Piratebay for that reason. It's just going to suck for a while.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by Etrnl_President » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:39 AM UTC

Varqu wrote: post #65

MadSudaca wrote: post #42

It's funny. Right now I have access to around 5 streaming services while I only pay for 2. My girlfriend's friend has access to Netflix, my sis HBO. I provide access to Disney+ and Prime to my family. I used to get YT premium from my sis's boyfriend, but they detected I'm not in the family household and they kicked me out. If it wasn't because other people use my accounts (and I use theirs), I wouldn't be paying for…

It's interesting to see that free market competition actually worsened the customer offering when it comes to streaming services. Back in the days, Netflix was a one-to-see-all service and that was also one of the reasons why it took people from torrenting to paying for movies. Nowadays, if you want to watch a particular movie, you have maybe a 10% chance that it is available on the streaming service that you are cur…

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by npteljes » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:39 AM UTC

streakfix wrote: post #38

Let me add a couple 100 more to that count. Did you know that netflix doesn't support resolutions higher than 720p on windows/linux? You could subscribe to the 1080p plan (like me) and the players will stream 720p videos to you with no indication whatsoever. The only way of checking the netflix video resolution is `document.querySelectorAll('video')[0].videoWidth`. There are FF extensions but they don't work for ever…

There's also "Test patterns" to check resolution and other things regarding your stream: https://www.netflix.com/title/80018499

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by FrojoS » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:41 AM UTC

ricardobayes wrote: post #96

Varqu wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to see that free market competition actually worsened the customer offering when it comes to streaming services. Back in the days, Netflix was a one-to-see-all service and that was also one of the reasons why it took people from torrenting to paying for movies. Nowadays, if you want to watch a particular movie, you have maybe a 10% chance that it is available on the streaming service that you are cur…

The only good one these days seem to be movie rental on youtube. That has the biggest catalog

If your IP is outside the US, say German, then you often don''t get the original audio offered. Piratebay has the best user experience.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by maskedPenguin » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:42 AM UTC

planede wrote: post #106

danpalmer wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think most sharers are contributing to the price? I really don’t think that’s the case. I’ve never heard of anyone charging family members for access to their Netflix account. There might be some friend groups who split the cost of an account between them, but I suspect far more common is that parents have an account that kids (who might be independent adults) use, couples who don’t live together sharing passw…

They may share back a streaming account to a different provider.

This is my take as well. All people I know either share the expenses or share different streaming accounts, which by extension is a share of expenses, just across the streaming universe instead of only Netflix. Now Netflix may not be too hurt by being the first to do this, but if all the streaming services do this, it will basically amount to a price hike for most people.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by sokoloff » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:42 AM UTC

m000 wrote: post #153

baq wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the paradox: everybody wants to build and operate that since it's obvious everyone would subscribe to such a service, it'd be a cash cow, a golden goose, etc. But nobody wants to share their slice of the copyright and licensing pie with anybody else for revenue reasons, brand reasons, whatever, so we're slowly moving back toward the cable model with 200 subscriptions and nothing to watch. Torrents will be back…

This is essentially the ridiculous copyright laws backfiring. The entertainment market is stagnating (if not quantity, at least quality-wise) because the copyright laws stiffle innovation instead of fostering it. Early-comers (Hollywood & co) are comfortably sitting on their stash of content, content with rehashing the same franchises. New-comers are forced to low-risk - low-quality content, sprinkled with anything t…

What part of that is about "ridiculous copyright laws backfiring", though?

It seems like it's copyright laws working as intended. (I may not love that I have to pay to access a 25 year old movie legally, but it hardly feels objectively unfair or ridiculous that I have to do that.)

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by dumpsterdiver » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:44 AM UTC

throwawaynf38 wrote: post #62

esskay wrote: post #10

Not really that surprising is it? I'm waiting for the day they send me the inevitable notice to pay more, aka the day I cancel Netflix. They could get away with this if their offering was substantially better than the competitors but thse days it's not. Pumping out complete crap like 'The Floor is Lava' and the 9 millionth cake contest isn't what built their massive customer base. These days when a new hyped show com…

I wish one of the streaming services would give a "no major loose ends" guarantee. If a show really needs a cliffhanger the show should budget for an extra episode to air if the next season is cancelled. If they don't want to do that, just end the season finale without a cliffhanger. If Netflix had this guarantee, I would watch a lot more series. (I'm still a bit upset that HBO cancelled "Beforeigners" that had a maj…

Well you have to keep in mind that these productions are basically discrete companies themselves.

Providing such a guarantee would be akin to guaranteeing that a multitude of small businesses will not fail... which just isn't really possible.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by LightHugger » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:44 AM UTC

netflix scammed me early on in their development before it was a household name, by requiring someone to pay for a subscription to redeem a gift subscription. I bought a gift sub from them that was unredeemable by their nonsense rules, basically. As a result, i simply acquired everything i would have watched on netflix elsewhere instead. They've lost years of revenue from me for one month's stolen sub fee.

Did they forget that piracy is a service problem? This is just going to have the same effect

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by commitpizza » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:46 AM UTC

hurril wrote: post #161

commitpizza wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people already pay for the service. They pay for a multi user account, the problem is that they are cutting off people that are not living under the same roof. Then they require you to pay an additional $8 for each extra member, it that would be the premium cost (approx $19 where I live) and an additional ~$16 if you add two users. That's $35 a month for a service that is filled with woke bs content, 10% of what…

So of the two alternatives: pay $X for a full subscription or pay $X * 0.2 for a shared one, you are choosing to pay $0 because it is annoying to pay money compared to not paying money? If it's not good enough to warrant either $X or $X * 0.2, then cancel it. I.e.: Netflix sucks, cancel it! Y'all are defending not paying while still using said service with arguments that don't support your case. I stopped pirating st…

> Y'all are defending not paying while still using said service with arguments that don't support your case.

I am barely using Netflix though. But yes it happens that sometimes I'll watch something on Netflix, perhaps once or twice a month. Will that warrant a $20 monthly subscription? The answer to that is hell no. They offer a bad service and require us to pay a lot for it so it's simply not worth the money.

I don't pirate that much either anymore tbh. I most often than not just do something else instead. Sometimes I'll pirate it if we really want to watch a movie and it's not available though.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by CubsFan1060 » Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 9:47 AM UTC

GordonS wrote: post #56

swe_dima wrote: post #40

An unplesant surpsise I got from Netflix is when I went to a vacation to Thailand and got welcomed with "you can't watch it here" screen. Customer support told me I can only watch Netflix in the country I purchased it from. This was not my first trip so must be a new development.

I got this with Amazon Prime in Thailand recently too. Incredibly annoying - what does it matter where I stream from?!

I believe they need a license to stream in different countries. If they don’t have a license to stream in Thailand I don’t think they will let you watch there.