Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google has already pulled six products in 2023

toolhub.tech

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

161–170 of 371 posts

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#161

Post by rpdillon »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #85
rcme wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding OnHub: > Then in January 2023, the company rendered the product almost completely useless by disabling most of its features. I think GameBoy Color still works today? Also, the list is missing Nest Secure.

The battery in cartridges has expired in the vast majority of the cases which means you can't save anymore. I don't see any outrage towards Nintendo for that.

Disingenuous.

There's a bright distinction between natural wear of the product and remote shutdowns.

Analogy: I don't get outraged if my laptop's battery loses capacity or even swells over time. I do get outraged if I can't boot my laptop because it checked with some remote server that decided I'm not allowed to boot it.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#162

Post by Ensorceled »

kmlx wrote: post #140
Kuinox wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pixel still had recent major software issues (Crashing when calling emergencies, a year after the first reports), or ongoing issue, like massive battery drains in certain conditions. I bought a Pixel 6, I don't think I'll buy another Pixel again. The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year (my own 3D printed case in TPU now lasted longer than google one). The official pixel case also caught s…

> The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year welcome to the "official case" club. all my iphone cases get destroyed in max 6 months, with one lasting less than 3 months. during the course of an iphone (2 years) i go thru 5-6 "official" cases.

I bought an Otterbox case that has lasted 2 years and is only just now starting to show some wear and rubber/plastic separation. My Apple case was a bit embarrassing to pull out in public after only 6 months.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#163

Post by gnfargbl »

tjpnz wrote: post #8

GCP on the chopping block if it doesn't start making gains on Azure by EOY?

I think it's quite unlikely that they will kill off GCP entirely. It's too established, and it is still growing at a rate of around 30-40% year-on-year [1].

What seems more likely is that they shut down an increasing number of individual sub-products, in the way that they are shuttering IoT Core [2]. If they do, then I'm not convinced that will be a bad thing -- a slimmed down, profitable, platform with a well-supported set of core services feels like a safe long-term partner.

[1] https://www.ciodive.com/news/Google-Cloud-Profitability-Alph...

[2] https://cloud.google.com/iot-core

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#164

Post by simonswords82 »

detourdog wrote: post #67
LeBit wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Search is in great perils because of ChatGPT.

Google search is in great perils because of lack of quality search results.

I think both things are true.

Googles results got stagnant and Google overall was complacent. ChatGPT is capitalising on this.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#165

Post by apexalpha »

bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

>Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN.

Surely the people on Hackrnews understand that no one outside of tech enthusiasts even knows about this, right? I have to imagine so... they're smart people and surely sometimes interact with regular people in real life?!

But on a more serious note: none of these projects have ever had any traction. That's why they're killed!

Try asking anyone who's not in tech but does play videogames what Stadia is. You'll soon find out why it's axed.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#166

Post by Gordonjcp »

vaasuu wrote: post #156
remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

I mostly used the Street View app to capture 360° spherical panoramas, offline, on-device. Now that Google has killed the app, I can’t capture those photos! The app worked fine a month ago, why not let me use it, as it worked offline‽ No one seems to be talking about this issue. I haven’t found suitable replacement apps to capture photospheres on a (i)Phone. The suggested Street View Studio doesn’t let you capture Ph…

[flagged]

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#167

Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

vitus wrote: post #21
bigyikes wrote: post #6

Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?

> Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. Yes, but we're not the people making the product decisions. Stadia's shutdown was inevitable in part because we had already established this distrust, and also because leadership handled every aspect of it incredibly poorly. It was technicall…

>Stadia's shutdown was inevitable in part because we had already established this distrust, and also because leadership handled every aspect of it incredibly poorly. It was technically impressive, but the economics relied on the addressable market actually being willing to go all-in on the service.

This is what I don’t understand. Is leadership really this dumb or are we missing large pieces of context?

The prevailing sentiment is google is flakey. Don’t rely on their stuff.

Now removing redundant services is one thing. But from the outside it looks like they don’t care about regaining confidence. And they don’t care about creating new stable products that I want.

Did they really think Stadia would be an instant success with their shit reputation in a market that has been already carved up by the incumbents? A naïve observer would say it would take years and a ton of money.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#168

Post by elif »

remirk wrote: post #29

The dedicated Streetview app was finally killed because streetview is already integrated in regular google maps. To me, that seems like a good reason to discontinue the dedicated app. I don't get the reasoning behind this article. Half of this list is side projects which didn't work out, which is understandable to a certain degree. The article feels like blogspam riding on the hypetrain of people disliking when googl…

I'd love to know your breakdown of which 3 are "side projects." the 2 I can imagine you are referring to, jacquard and onhub, had 3rd party hardware manufacturers implementing them.

These are all projects that google wanted developers to engage with their ecosystem. Routinely inviting devs over to work with you, then kicking them out in the cold, will obviously have consequences.

I remember participating in CodeJam 2003 twenty years ago, and it was such a positive experience that Google was the first company I applied to out of college.

Right now I'm working on a project using a gcp API, and now I'm considering finding an alternative because arbitrarily doing the same work twice is never the most efficient way.

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#169

Post by muyuu »

illiarian wrote: post #55
manojlds wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

Does it though? Especially in the context of Google, and Google Products? John Gruber summarised it correctly: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/google-pixel-po... And Google's approach to Pixels reflects that: they make them greta, then they all but abandon them, then okay again, then...

you can never put it past Google to just kill anything up to Google Search, but the Pixel is a success and it doesn't make sense to compare a high-end line of products on a per-unit basis to cheapo phones like TLCs

for instance the most profitable watch companies in the world are Timex, Rolex and Omega, and they have a combined market share of a fraction of a percent and on a per-unit basis they don't sell, combined, a thousandth of the units Casio alone sells (by the way most smartwatches are sell at nearly no profit and Apple's watch business has been losing money for a while)

Re: Google has already pulled six products in 2023

#170

Post by pbhjpbhj »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #99
nkrisc wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google OnHub is a one time hardware product. Nobody is blaming Nintendo for killing the Gameboy Color when it stopped producing it. Did your Gameboy Color stop working when Nintendo decided to stop producing it?

Partially. Once the battery in the cartridges expires you cannot save your progress anymore, essentially killing most of the product. 8 years of support for their router doesn't seem bad at all.

Although the battery is a standard CR2025 that you can find almost anywhere (in the UK).

Nintendo should definitely have been required to make the battery accessible.

Post reply on HN