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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Since you mentioned sourcehut, I’ll point out that their static hosting is excellent. I host my blog on there and have had no issues.

Not that excellent. They still don't have ipv6 support in 2023

IIRC there were issues with IPv6 on the hardware, which will be replaced once services move to Europe, and IPv6 will be available.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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> all are welcome Except for those who don't want their code to be used for training proprietary AI models.

I read the Copilot terms, they only use public repos for AI training. Private repos are not used for training. I've since privated all of my non-forked repos.

But maybe some of us want to share our work publicly, but still not have GitHub's proprietary models trained on our code?

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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People don't seem to realize the risk of centralizing on a single provider and solution. Currently, it's like 90% of the FOSS projects are hosted on GitHub. It all seems smooth and all until one day you log in to their platform and find yourself essentially shunned-off from collaborating on FOSS scene [1] . I'm grateful Codeberg, sourcehut and other alternatives exist. One nitpick from my experience: Codeberg's stati…

The flip side is economies of scale. Github can implement code search, credential scanning, malware scanning, or any other number of other things and theoretically, every code repo can get it for free. When everything is centralized, adding a new feature costs k but gives N benefit. When there are M different options adding a new feature costs k * M for N benefit. I don't think it's as black and white as centralizati…

> Github can implement code search

Sounds great! When are they going to do it?

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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"Publicly available" is different from "licensed under a FOSS license". Anyone other than the original author doesn't have the right to distribute, modify or even execute the code. Even if the code is licensed under an open source license, in most cases it requires users to attribute the original author, while in some cases derivative work must be licensed under the same license too. GitHub Copilot use the code witho…

> distribute Does moving code between a company's data centres count as distribution? Heck doesn't merely hosting the files count as distribution?

No, but Copilot can be considered a form of distribution.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Why is his point juvenile? I enjoyed the comparison. Going FOSS only/going vegan can be challenging and limiting, but is arguably the most ethical choice. In the abstract, I see many similarities between the FSF/Codeberg philosophy and vegan philosophy.

It's juvenile because the obvious implication is that making this choice is unnecessarily limiting, and only someone willing to cut off their nose to spite their face would do it. (Maybe my biases are showing, though, and I'm reading too much into that.)

Regardless, the analogy only runs skin-deep. There is precious little you have to "give up" if you stop using proprietary software. (Ok, ok, gaming probably takes a big hit, but that's about it.) If you become vegan, you give up the vast majority of dishes you might find in the diets of most cultures around the world. (You even lose quite a bit from cultures that are largely vegetarian.) And the alternatives are just not the same, at least not yet. For many pieces of software, the open source alternative is comparable, or even superior.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

> I don't want to learn a different UI for contributing to FOSS than the one I use for my daily work. Codeberg is an instance of the FOSS forge platform Forgejo, which is a fork of Gitea. As FOSS projects, Forgejo and Gitea can be used to host any kind of software, proprietary or open source, without restriction. It is entirely possible for a person to use Forgejo/Gitea to contribute to both work projects and off-wor…

They display the code publicly for others to read. The privacy policy has no effect on companies using these repos for the next code-assist plugin

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Yes, I know. The codeberg issue I linked has a link to the upstream gitea issue, which was closed as completed. But presumably codeberg.org hasn't updated their gitea to have that feature yet.

Didn't they recently upgrade 1.19? It should include this change

Nope: https://codeberg.org/api/v1/version

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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> Our mission is to support the creation and development of Free Software; therefore we only allow repos licensed under an OSI/FSF-approved license. For more details see Licensing article. However, we sometimes tolerate repositories that aren't perfectly licensed and focus on spreading awareness on the topic of improper FLOSS licensing and its issues. If you aren't doing FOSS software and aren't "tolerated" you aren'…

I hate how on Hacker News it's always the corporate, proprietary, market that is cast as the underdog. You know the one who get all the press coverage and has VC money behind it.

What do you expect for a site created originally to support communication and community among startup founders? YC from the very start was an archetype of the SV startup ethos: be economically subversive, disrupt the mainstream corporate choices, engage in capitalism at its fullest, all so you can take the place of and become the huge corporation you set out to compete with.

To many people in this world, startup founders are the underdog. But they seem to forget that, at some point in their growth, they stop being the underdog and instead become the incumbent.

Unfortunately, this mindset often taints the attitudes of people who post here. The term "hacker" used to be primarily associated with counter-culture types, those lower on the corporate totem pole, but more recently it's also come to be associated with people who "hack" capitalism and become financially, economically, and career-track successful.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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We do realise, Sourceforge. It turns out most don't care.

Monopolies are always bad. Always. And Github is a proprietary software which is nearly a monopoly for hosting free software (how ironic, isn’t it?). Exactly like sourceforge was, you are right. Each generation must learn it the hard way. https://ploum.net/2023-02-22-leaving-github.html

> Monopolies are always bad. Always.

I don't think that's true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_utility

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly

When monopolies can rival/influence/corrupt the power that would otherwise regulate them, that is the point at which monopolies are definitely bad.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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This sort of myopic, self-important, holier-than-thou perspective is why the open source community is so rarely successful in anything it tries to do for itself. Whatever you think Github's most known or most useful featureset is, the fact of the matter is it dominates because they don't draw philosophical lines in the sand and exclude people as a result. It's a big tent, all are welcome, and as a result, it has near…

Wow, entitled much? Nobody owes you anything, nobody is obliged to host your code. If you want to use the same UI for your closed/work projects and your FOSS projects, you can host your own instance; Forgejo is FOSS. Codeberg seems to be focused at providing a free service to the FOSS community, _and that's okay_. You don't get to be mad at that.

People are entitled to reactions to ads. This is an ad.. this is one reaction.

Parent will not use.. I'm guessing you won't use them over github. If 1% readership uses them I would be shocked. 99% of the people commenting won't use them.

Now you are saying people can't express themselves because nothing is owed. For every ad watched a comment is owed by the watcher. That's owed.

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