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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by secondcoming »

ddevault wrote: post #125
martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

Many of the other comments are missing the point. It's ultimately because there are a lot of desperate people in SF. The bay area has the highest homelessness incidence in the country. Mental health services are poor to non-existent. The city is full of people with no options, no healthcare, and no support system. We could criminalize homelessness even more, and brutalize the desperate with more police interventions,…

Are all those homeless originally from SF, or do they migrate there?

If it's the latter then I assume that social services are just overwhelmed?

I'm pretty sure that if I was made homeless tomorrow, and knew I had no prospect of pulling myself out of that situation, I'd migrate to somewhere with a climate like that of SF.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by deeensta »

atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

“ SFPD will not arrest them because Boudin refused to prosecute.”

That’s not how it works. After being arrested, you press charges against them.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by subsistence234 »

sulam wrote: post #34

My office before I went fully remote is literally at that corner. Good luck getting me to go back to the office.

https://robkhenderson.substack.com/p/status-symbols-and-the-...

usually only the lower classes suffer for our luxury beliefs. this is an exception.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by throw_m239339 »

ronanyeah wrote: post #126

Americans clearly have very low expectations for their standard of living. As demonstrated by the amount of insane 'actually the murder rate isn't that bad' comments in this thread.

Americans have low expectations when it comes to the acceptable level of violence in a country that has third world levels of crime. And in Europe, many politicians wants their own citizens to live in what the former perceive as the ideal society? Just no.

Even being rich in US doesn't protect anyone from being murdered randomly...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by mjfl »

Detriot was once the richest city per capita in the US, in the 1950s. It is now the second poorest city per capita in the US, an actual wasteland. SF seems to be headed in a similar direction. It's because the people that live there simply don't live on this planet - they don't have to. It is so wealthy that there's no penalty for being delusional. Until it's too late of course. And that's when the weight of fate punches you 6 ft under the ground, and you never recover.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by rainy59 »

atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

Yep same here. Estonia is a dream compared to Bay Area even with the cold winters and old Soviet buildings (which means lots of cheap rent btw). San Francisco has a powerful marketing and promotion engine - and yes it really is a gorgeous city in the late summer - but the weather otherwise is pretty miserable - almost as cold and rainy as Seattle

I'm sure - given the option - any US west coast tech startup would much prefer to operate in some quaint old town in Eastern Europe with the cafes etc. and no need to hassle with a car. Unfortunately the venture community infrastructure / legal etc. is stuck on west coast - and AI is only reinforcing that

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by atdrummond »

deeensta wrote: post #162
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

“ SFPD will not arrest them because Boudin refused to prosecute.” That’s not how it works. After being arrested, you press charges against them.

You can go ahead and call and try to get something done. I spent two years on it and was stonewalled by both the PD and the DA’s office.

It’s incredible when there are so many stories of the police doing nothing and statistical evidence of the previous DA not prosecuting cases, that you choose to, at best, accuse me of being imprecise with my terminology or, at worse, claim that I’m lying about one of the most traumatic events of my life.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by mjfl »

atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

you made a good choice. hope to visit Estonia some day.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by subsistence234 »

ethicalsmacker wrote: post #23

Sounds like SF to me. It has never been "nice". I was commuting to and from work there for over a year back in ~2015 and it was hell then. I interviewed around 2017 in SF and it was so bad I didn't dare walk back to the station (caught an Uber instead). It's a terrible place.

AFAI remember (I was pretty young then) San Francisco was quite nice around 2000.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by himinlomax »

somsak2 wrote: post #60
madrox wrote: post #4

I lived a block from here prior to Covid, and I would've called this a safe part of town. Honestly incredible there was a stabbing there. My condolences to the family. The guy was too young.

post COVID, SoMa is maybe second only to the tenderloin in how overrun it is by the homeless

I thought we were supposed to call them "the unhoused" or something.
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