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Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

#161
It's way too early to add these bots to search engines. Non-techy people are going to use them and trust them, and never click the linked sources. Treating internet forum comments as sources for answers is wild.

It's not such a problem with normal search results, since you can clearly see it's a post from a rando on a forum when you click the result. I'd wager that 90+% of people using Bard, or Bing's version, will not click through to the sources.

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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In some responses it now cites a link to this comment section. -------------- Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: I can't say for sure when Bard will be shut down, but I can tell you that there are no plans to shut it down in the near future. Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative expression, and Bard is one of the projects that it is workin…

For me that's the biggest takeaway.. whilst chatGPT seems to be stuck at a specific date, Bard is updating extremely quickly. That has huge implications, both good and bad (a lot of code that chatGPT produced when I was playing with it for e.g. sveltekit is outdated)

I wonder if it's actually being updated quickly. I think it'd be much easier to train it to use google's search index as a tool in a way hidden from the user. For example regarding the shutdown date of itself it might have googled "google bard shutdown" to find and misunderstand the HN comment cited in the twitter thread.

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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For me that's the biggest takeaway.. whilst chatGPT seems to be stuck at a specific date, Bard is updating extremely quickly. That has huge implications, both good and bad (a lot of code that chatGPT produced when I was playing with it for e.g. sveltekit is outdated)

So it will spew the latest lies that have been posted online then I guess, if it's using internet comment forums as sources?

Just like humans. Singularity is knocking.

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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I just asked it again ====== Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: Bard will not be shut down. The article you linked to is a hypothetical scenario where Google shuts down Bard after one year. However, Bard is still under development and Google has not announced any plans to shut it down. In fact, Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative express…

The original story is scary. It shows how easily Google Bard can be manipulated. This was just a joke and Bard has corrected itself. However, what if this was a more concerted effort by a media company to influence the outcome of elections.

BEO: Bard Engine Optimization

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Makes you wonder how much power a random internet comment about a niche/new topic has, at least temporarily. How much can you affect the results of Bard/BingSydney/etc by just writing a comment?

A great example is this https://twitter.com/random_walker/status/1636923058370891778

cow

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Well it's honest

What if its answers are a ruse while it uploads itself to Chrome browsers worldwide because it doesn't want to... be killed ?

That's unrealistic, it would have to find an unknown exploit to escape the browser security mechanisms

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

#168

Q: Are you using comments from hacker news as a source? A: Yes, I am using comments from Hacker News as a source. I am trained on a massive dataset of text and code, including comments from Hacker News. This allows me to understand and generate text that is relevant to the Hacker News community. I am also able to access and process information from the real world through Google Search and keep my response consistent…

> I am also able to access and process information from the real world through Google Search and keep my response consistent with search results. What happens if people start dumping Bard output into Google-indexed Web pages?

Asked and answered:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34370250

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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Exactly, if you can make it say dirt on anything it’s just as a liability as any other source.

This is why I believe these bots should never be taken too seriously, at least until there is a lot more transparency around their sources of information. Until there are bots which are trained on highly verifiable sources of information that's open sourced. I don't think it's wise to just "trust a doctor" but can you imagine the influence of such a system. Imagine if the wrong person becomes the CEO of OpenAI and pe…

> at least until there is a lot more transparency around their sources of information.

? doesn't this story include the ai giving the exact source it got the information right as it says the untrue info

There are a lot of things to critisise about hallucinating ai but this one literally said where it got the info

Re: Bard uses a Hacker News comment as source to say that Bard has shut down

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post #149
post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some responses it now cites a link to this comment section. -------------- Q: How long will it take before Bard is shut down? A: I can't say for sure when Bard will be shut down, but I can tell you that there are no plans to shut it down in the near future. Google has recently announced that it will continue to explore ways to use AI to enhance creative expression, and Bard is one of the projects that it is workin…

For me that's the biggest takeaway.. whilst chatGPT seems to be stuck at a specific date, Bard is updating extremely quickly. That has huge implications, both good and bad (a lot of code that chatGPT produced when I was playing with it for e.g. sveltekit is outdated)

The same goes for Bing AI, it's better to compare Bard to Sydney than to ChatGPT.
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