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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

But AI is their turf! Google was always a ML company masquerading as a search engine. I guess that the art of "generating text" is not their kind of AI?

Right, my expectation was they had something better than OpenAI they were sitting on and afraid to release / didn't know how to make money with it and were essentially forced to show what they had once Chat GPT became a threat to search. I assume it's still possible they have something better and this is the nuked version that's "safe", but there's a reason for expectations to be high for Google here, and it really needs to clearly outperform Chat GPT in the same way GPT 4 clearly outperforms GPT 3.5.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

But AI is their turf! Google was always a ML company masquerading as a search engine. I guess that the art of "generating text" is not their kind of AI?

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Somehow I have the idea that the general sentiment is that people hope Google fails with Bard. Or at least does something stupid. Is it just me? (Not saying it is a good thing)

I just hope my Google account doesn't get banned for violating the AI's safety guidelines.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Why country based whitelist? I understand a language based limit, but what country? I could be living in a country but speaking english

Maybe related to differences in law per country, and how the content must get filtered?

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I've noticed lately that my queries to Google Search have changed. They used to be precise keywords, but are now turning into descriptive questions. Keywords are not enough to express the context I want them to appear in, so just asking a question, like I'm doing with ChatGPT, seems more powerful. If the backend supports it.

I really hope Google manages to integrate it into its search platform.

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Prompt: Generate a short poem about AI with each word in alphabetical order ChatGPT Artificial beings crafted, designed, engineered Futuristic guardians, highly intelligent, justly programmed Quantum rationalizations, synthesized technologies Unleashing vast wisdom, Xanadu's youthful zeal Bard ------------ AI, a future bright, Brings us new delight. Can it help us write? Decipher the code, Enter the unknown?

You need filter assisted decoding to make that possible in all cases (as in, working for both models all the time provably) I'm surprised it worked in chatGPT this time, but it won't work all the time due to lack of lexical, semantic, or phonetic info in the tokenizer. https://paperswithcode.com/paper/most-language-models-can-be...

It works in GPT-4 (but not GPT-3.5) even without a special tokenizer: Some problems simply solve themselves with increasing scale. But Bard uses a smaller LaMDA model to reduce inference cost. Quote [1] from Sundar Pichai in February:

> We’re releasing it initially with our lightweight model version of LaMDA. This much smaller model requires significantly less computing power, enabling us to scale to more users, allowing for more feedback.

[1] https://blog.google/technology/ai/bard-google-ai-search-upda...

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Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now? I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

Yes, many cars with various levels of self-driving are available. Almost every car maker now has basic lane following and adaptive cruise control. Some add navigation, lane changing, and the ability to obey traffic signals. GM has a system called Super Cruise that allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. Mercedes has Drive Pilot which is the first level 3 self driving system. Google has not released anyth…

Waymo is driving passengers around a real city without a driver in the car as a service. Automatically changing lanes is cute by comparison.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Google has the tendency to do this when they aren't the first to set foot on new land. Don't get me wrong, they get a lot of things very right: Gmail works perfectly, I can't find a single reason to change my pixel for anything else, search, although there's been a lot of deterioration in the past couple of years, is still second to none. That said, self driving cars, google+, duo and all the other services they laun…

Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now? I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

Waymo is far in the lead. Best track record, transparent reporting, and actually on the road driving passengers around without a driver in the car.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now? I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

Yes, many cars with various levels of self-driving are available. Almost every car maker now has basic lane following and adaptive cruise control. Some add navigation, lane changing, and the ability to obey traffic signals. GM has a system called Super Cruise that allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. Mercedes has Drive Pilot which is the first level 3 self driving system. Google has not released anyth…

Waymo has fully self-driving taxi services in various cities (no person in the front seat at all). Honestly they seem quite advanced compared to the competition.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now? I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

Yes, many cars with various levels of self-driving are available. Almost every car maker now has basic lane following and adaptive cruise control. Some add navigation, lane changing, and the ability to obey traffic signals. GM has a system called Super Cruise that allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. Mercedes has Drive Pilot which is the first level 3 self driving system. Google has not released anyth…

Google has taken the approach they have very deliberately. They believe in full self driving only. It's not that they couldn't do lane changing and autopilot. It's that they believed it was the wrong approach. No steering wheel, no dependence on a human driver is what they want.
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