Learning the ropes: why Germany is building risk into its playgrounds (2021)

Post by PoignardAzur » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 11:16 AM UTC

matsemann wrote: post #55

PoignardAzur wrote: post #37

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Pretty common in Paris too. I wish they made versions that were socially acceptable for adults to climb. These things were awesome .

I'm only semi-joking, but perhaps join an obstacle course race, or a gymnastics class for adults. I've done both, and it's been so much fun. The obstacle course is all kinds of weird things you have to climb over and under (I'd avoid the mud variants, unless you like that aspect, though). And even though I never did gymnastics as a kid and am stiff as a stick, it was great fun to play around in a big hall with other…

I'm in a parkour club, actually. Centr'Halles Park is pretty much the closest you get to an adult jungle gym!

Post by LeanderK » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 10:22 PM UTC

burnished wrote: post #155

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I don't think so. I would have said the same about other statistics. In the end it defies my intuition, which is interesting given that the possibility of getting run over is pretty present in every day life of many children. You have to keep in mind that zero is pretty much impossible because the risk is present all long as we drive, so we should aim for zero but won't get to zero.

Then we are not actually aiming for zero. I don't think it is wise to engage in such blatant sophistry when discussing public policy.

of course you're aiming for zero. But you can't just wish it, there are constraints that arise from our reality. It's all a story of risks and costs, from crossing the street, driving a bicycle to using electricity. You can even die from the flu. In the end dying is unfortunately part of living and in some way unavoidable. A little bit of risks repeated a lot goes a long way.

Calling my comment sophistry is a little bit dramatic I think ;) especially considering you started this argument by twisting my statement about 16 dead kids being fine

public policy should be rational and evidence based

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