Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by robjan » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:00 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #124

roseway4 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it any better or worse than delegating work to a junior team member and not bothering to review the work product? I love the idea that I can rapidly produce a rough draft of a document from notes, something I’m already doing with ChatGPT, albeit not as elegantly as if the functionality were integrated into Docs/Word.

Is it any better or worse than delegating work to a junior team member and not bothering to review the work product? When a junior team member screws up the interpretation, there is someone to hold accountable. With Office 365Bot, there is no accountability for errors.

In any sensible organisation the manager will be the accountable party regardless of whether the frontline staff are human or AI.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by Amezarak » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:02 PM UTC

mihaaly wrote: post #78

jatins wrote: post #12

Shipping at big companies can often be surprisingly hard so it's impressive to see how fast Microsoft is moving with AI integration into all their products.

It is also impressive how slow they deliver the option of ungrouping taskbar icons, which is requested by masses for years now, and actually worked before. I know, I know, that is a much harder poblem than AI. Maybe they need to improve AI much more first so it could have superhuman powers, solving the task bar ungrouping problem finally for the humanity.

I'm sure the issue there is designers believing they know better than power users how things should work, leading to the gradual evolution of software that is usable only by the lowest common denominator.

This happens to a lot of projects, it's a shame it's infested MS.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by la64710 » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:04 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #83

Really. I used chatGPT quite a few times to summarize corporate spam emails to me. So this now makes things deliciously ironic: 1. BS Manager jolts down a few lines then AI outputs pompous bullshit from the raw bullshit she wrote. 2. I get the bullshit email and then use AI to distill the bullshit down to the essential bullshit

Well AI sender writes a email to a bunch of email addresses, one of the AI recipient email agent responds , then another one responds , then one AI email agent responds politely asking everyone to stop hitting the reply all button , and soon the other AI agents respond back to each other saying to stop hitting the respond all button until one big AI agent says “Nobody responds to this last email” …. meanwhile the human sitting in the hotel cube in his office looks at his computer screen and sighs … deja vu!

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by doomleika » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:04 PM UTC

One thing I hate MSFT is that once they have a hit product with a name. Anything follows, related or not. will have ride on it and eventually made it meaningless. It was ActiveXXX, it was XboxXXX, it was .NET XXX, it was PowerXXX, now it's Copilot.

Their marketing team need to understand brand names carries weight and if you stuff too many unrelated in the name loses it and will confuse consumers. It's not a good idea.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by ryankrage77 » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #160

For those who dont follow, or dont remember anything much about M$, Microsoft 365 is the replacement brand of Office 365. Now an off topic question, the first photo is showing what I believe is Microsoft Word. But it doesn't have the Ribbon design. Did they finally drop the Ribbon or is that something else? Edit: I think those are Web Application of the Office Apps just in Full Screen. But I still think they look muc…

It's the web version of Word. Runs in a browser tab, has less features.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by cs702 » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:07 PM UTC

Faster than anyone predicted, we're starting to offload more and more cognitive work to these machines. Soon enough, the machines will be talking to each other, even negotiating with each other, and bringing human beings in the loop only when necessary, e.g., to make "important decisions." We sure live in interesting times.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by Karawebnetwork » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:07 PM UTC

QuadrupleA wrote: post #20

My first thought is, "gross"... now we'll have to wonder whether Manager X is even paying attention to the emails they're reading and responding to, or doing any actual work or thinking. Could lead to a world that's even more tilted towards politics and socially engineering your way up the ladder, versus competence and skill.

As a dev, I'm very much attracted to the ability to turn a Teams meeting transcript into a documentation page.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by agloe_dreams » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:08 PM UTC

jimcsharp wrote: post #118

agloe_dreams wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> now we'll have to wonder whether Manager X is even paying attention to the emails they're reading and responding to, or doing any actual work or thinking If my experience in engineering is anything to go by, this worry existed since the dawn of middle management. AI just makes it give good responses instead.

Sounds good. Cheers.

K. thanks

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by throwuwu » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:08 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #151

> Sometimes Copilot will be right, other times usefully wrong “Usefully wrong” is some audacious marketing.

It’s truthful and realistic. I appreciate that more than fluffing it. All first drafts are garbage and “usefully wrong” anyways whether human written or not.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by doomleika » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 5:08 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #83

Really. I used chatGPT quite a few times to summarize corporate spam emails to me. So this now makes things deliciously ironic: 1. BS Manager jolts down a few lines then AI outputs pompous bullshit from the raw bullshit she wrote. 2. I get the bullshit email and then use AI to distill the bullshit down to the essential bullshit

I really wish I can just send mail with bulletpoints without all the formality stuff and walk around the egg shells.

But alas, that's the way it is. Reminds me the custom in Japan working culture. There are so many unspoken rules you are expected to follow and it became hinderance.