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Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by wutbrodo »

stametseater wrote: post #85
shagie wrote: post #84

Apparently, this is known as Sharenting and has its own Wikipedia page... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharenting > Sharenting is the practice of parents publicizing sensitive content about their children on internet platforms. While the term was coined as recently as 2010, sharenting has become an international phenomenon with widespread presence in the United States, Spain, France, and the United Kingdom. As such,…

> Proponents frame the practice as a natural expression of parental pride in their children and argue that critics take sharenting posts out of context. You know this framing is BS because they'd all scream bloody murder if monetizing that content were outlawed. It's not about pride in their children, it's about monetizing their children. Of course it's no surprise that somebody psychopathic enough to do this to thei…

This definition easily encompasses the people who post their kids' lives for no monetary gain,which is the vast majority of social media users. A lot of the people in their 20s who share every detail of their life on social media continue to do so once they have kids.

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by ouid »

paperwasp42 wrote: post #136

One of the most horrifying social media pages I've seen was an influencer who billed herself as a "trans activist" and documented every moment of her trans daughter's life. This poor kid was 8-years-old and attempted suicide on a regular basis. Every time she tried to kill herself, the mom would document the gritty details, post pictures and details about it online (and of course get massive likes/shares by well-inte…

Munchausen's by proxy is real, and the consequences of it are at least as damaging as denying children access to medical transition services.

I believe that you have taken the position that this child is really experiencing gender dysphoria, but it's at least an equally plausible scenario that the parents are responsible for that too.

This is a serious hole in the argument for providing gender affirming care to children in an attempt to reduce harm. The trans-activist community is becoming complicit in child abuse when it denies the existence of this problem.

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by brightlancer »

anotherparent wrote: post #153
ivraatiems wrote: post #78

I have some good friends who've gone the other way: they've asked that there be as close to no photos or videos of their child on any social media as possible. They don't post about him online, and they keep pictures of him in photo albums. When he was born, they asked all of us to please refrain from taking photos of him without their permission. I completely support this and I intend to do something similar for my…

I am a parent of a toddler and he’s only on Apple Photos, my wife and I don’t use social media. That said, I expect to be downvoted into oblivion. > anonymity is one of the best gifts I can give them I don’t know, I mean a lot of parents tell themselves they are doing a lot of things, me included, that they have no control over in reality. I sympathize with the parents who try to turn their kids into celebs. We made…

> TikTok doesn’t cause this, it doesn’t even exacerbate it.

I agree with the first but not the second. I think "social media" is a net good, by far. At the same time, there are negative effects: one is that it creates a constant audience for whatever stupid thing the Influencer wants to do or say, which is an incentive for them to say or do stupid things.

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by ajani »

Agency. It’s about agency.

Social media, while not permanent, can be long lasting, and can have a chilling effect on a child’s future agency.

Guarding it until they can make their own decisions is what all good parents ought to do.

How is this not obvious and common sense?

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by Ekaros »

mablopoule wrote: post #44
colechristensen wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For starters, zero monetization of any social media content involving children. Second step, zero public posts involving children, maybe with some narrow carveouts.

Yes, let's narrow even more the kind of content allowed in platforms with draconian laws. "I'm sorry mister, but we can see chidren playing in the park at 44:28 in the hour-long documentary you've produced, so we had to remove the video." /s

I think it is entirely reasonable to totally ban any media that has any person who haven't given explicit release on their likeness. It isn't too much to ask for valuing everyone's privacy.

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by blooalien »

dvt wrote: post #127
ivraatiems wrote: post #78

I have some good friends who've gone the other way: they've asked that there be as close to no photos or videos of their child on any social media as possible. They don't post about him online, and they keep pictures of him in photo albums. When he was born, they asked all of us to please refrain from taking photos of him without their permission. I completely support this and I intend to do something similar for my…

100% on the same page here, I plan on doing the same, and my sister does the same thing with her kid. Seems so weird to freely share intimately private pictures of children, family scenes, etc. on the open internet. They used to be tucked in grandma's photo album under the living room coffee table.

> "Seems so weird to freely share intimately private pictures of children, family scenes, etc. on the open internet."

Weird and potentially dangerous as well. When I was a child, adults warned us about "stranger danger", but now parents advertise their children to potentially dangerous strangers…

What I find truly weird is how many people there are that don't find it "weird" or at all concerning in any way to openly share such photos so freely.

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by katabasis »

ivraatiems wrote: post #78

I have some good friends who've gone the other way: they've asked that there be as close to no photos or videos of their child on any social media as possible. They don't post about him online, and they keep pictures of him in photo albums. When he was born, they asked all of us to please refrain from taking photos of him without their permission. I completely support this and I intend to do something similar for my…

Private shared photo albums in Apple Photos are great for this. I have a small child and my wife and I live far from our extended families. Sharing photos and videos of our daughter via a shared album gives the same immediacy as posting to social media does (you even have likes, comments, etc) but it's way more private.

As long as everyone has an Apple device it just works, and I assume there is probably a similar way to do this with a Google photo album (although I will say, I think Google is way more likely to do something sketchy like default everything to public or make it easy for someone to publish content accidentally).

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by Kye »

ouid wrote: post #162
paperwasp42 wrote: post #136

One of the most horrifying social media pages I've seen was an influencer who billed herself as a "trans activist" and documented every moment of her trans daughter's life. This poor kid was 8-years-old and attempted suicide on a regular basis. Every time she tried to kill herself, the mom would document the gritty details, post pictures and details about it online (and of course get massive likes/shares by well-inte…

Munchausen's by proxy is real, and the consequences of it are at least as damaging as denying children access to medical transition services. I believe that you have taken the position that this child is really experiencing gender dysphoria, but it's at least an equally plausible scenario that the parents are responsible for that too. This is a serious hole in the argument for providing gender affirming care to child…

There's no denial of the problem, only of the attempt to elevate it into something more common than it is in an obvious ploy to make gender affirming care harder to access with a time-honored "won't someone think of the children!" moral panic that's already having negative effects on adult trans people's access to care.

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Post by colpabar »

StrangeATractor wrote: post #145
paperwasp42 wrote: post #136

One of the most horrifying social media pages I've seen was an influencer who billed herself as a "trans activist" and documented every moment of her trans daughter's life. This poor kid was 8-years-old and attempted suicide on a regular basis. Every time she tried to kill herself, the mom would document the gritty details, post pictures and details about it online (and of course get massive likes/shares by well-inte…

FFS nobody's called CPS?

Imagine how the media would cover the story of CPS going to a prominent trans activist parent of a suicidal trans child and you have your answer.

Re: Influencer parents and the kids who had their childhood made into content

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Post by jtsuken »

ivraatiems wrote: post #78

I have some good friends who've gone the other way: they've asked that there be as close to no photos or videos of their child on any social media as possible. They don't post about him online, and they keep pictures of him in photo albums. When he was born, they asked all of us to please refrain from taking photos of him without their permission. I completely support this and I intend to do something similar for my…

Why not call your children John or Maria Smith at birth then? Wouldn't this guarantee almost full anonymity in most contexts?

The typical security precautions are very hard to maintain in real life. e.g. should your child win some spelling context or a regional crosscountry run or whatever, how would you explain to them that their name and photo are not appearing among all the other winners?

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