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Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Even if it weren't marginally better, I'm paying to preserve my privacy and keep Google from monetizing my personal information.

You have a unique Kagi ID tied to your payment information. That’s not private.

It’s a lot more private than using Google, who are actively monetizing your information.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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A few things rub me the wrong way about this article: - I didn’t receive an email clearly indicating the pricing changes and pointing to this article. Instead, I found it on hacker news. - Every paid tier refers to the number of searches it allows as “free” despite requiring payment. - The wording around existing customers led to me believing that the pricing won’t change until cancelling the current plan (grandfathe…

Crawlers over ai would be nice indeed.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…

Bing increased their search API from 1.25 cents to 2.8 cents. As they are a wrapper around Bing it makes sense they have to increase their prices quite a bit.

LOL they’re just a wrapper around Bing??

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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The pricing changes are unfortunate, yes, since they encourage me to think about querying, which ought to not be the case. The more worrying update here is that Kagi is not grandfathering in legacy plans beyond the next billing cycle, which is a departure from a promise: > If such change to Individual plans is to occur, we plan to grandfather-in all early adopters (meaning all current and future paid customers, up un…

Agreed. I also don’t like how they are jumping on the AI bandwagon and splitting their efforts between search, a pointless new browser, and AI. It’s like Google all over again. I’m happy to give them $10 or $25 per month for excellent search and privacy. But I’m really not interested in funding their other junk.

An important tidbit from their Discord. The AI is just the commercial one from OpenAI. Paying $5 per 50 search summaries for it according to the founder of Kagi.[1] It is not in-house.

1: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925992877602000967/... (Backup: https://imgur.com/McoRELC )

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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The more disappointing part for me is that they didn’t keep the promise of grandfathering plans. I’ve lost confidence in them and will most likely cancel my subscription. Luckily search is mostly fungible.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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The most disappointing part for me is that they didn’t keep the promise of grandfathering plans. I’ve lost confidence in them and will most likely cancel my subscription. Luckily search is mostly fungible.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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I only use about 350-450 searches a month at present, so this pricing change won't affect me. However, I've not been crazy about Kagi's search quality lately, and I'm not convinced that more deeply integrating AI into the results will solve that. I'd rather the roughly 55% of my unused subscription went to improving the core product, but I'm not going to cancel yet because Kagi still provides the value of being comparatively confidential with my data.

(When it is revealed — as the narrative of this story demands it must be — that they sell you to advertisers like everybody else, I won't be surprised but I will be disappointed)

Every search engine seems to be scrambling to throw AI at their product: is it because they've thoroughly tested it, and it definitely improves the results? Or is it because it's a bullet point in the feature list? Feels like there is potential, but it also feels like a gold rush too, so I'm sort of waiting skeptically to see how it will shake out.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bing increased their search API from 1.25 cents to 2.8 cents. As they are a wrapper around Bing it makes sense they have to increase their prices quite a bit.

LOL they’re just a wrapper around Bing??

No but they do incorporate Google and Bing results in their search. They should probably work towards their own index to lower their costs.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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I'm definitely a part of the outliers in those statistics given my monthly use varies.. sometime 800, other times +1200 queries.

The pricing seems reasonable to me although I do not see myself paying 25 bucks for unlimited search. I'll probably stay on the 1000 queries and see where it takes me... The fact that you'll pay per queue once you hit the limit seems to have been missed by some in the thread...

You do not have to upgrade to $25 unless the cost of per queue ends up being more expensive than the tier.

Additionally you can set a soft and hard limit and although it's of course more expensive than the current unlimited plan, it's imo still better than the alternatives.

One thing is for sure, I can't go back to Google, DDG or bing, Kagi is just so much better.

Re: Update to Kagi Search Pricing

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I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…

I was finding it hard to justify the current price. This new pricing is madness to me. I think their rationale about the 'average number of searches' is misguided - what about the average number from people who are Kagi users? Those are the ones willing to pay for search, which I'd argue are currently not the 'average internet user'.

In the FAQ they they mention the average Kagi user does 700 searches a month. Perhaps uncoincidentally, the $10/month plan includes exactly that many searches.
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