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Sounds like folks like you must have been doing a really good job if it's that much harder to exploit vulnerabilities!
I think it's more like software developers have gotten better, leaving less room from cyber security. When I first started any idiot could back a web application because nearly all of them had a silly exploits like SQL injection.
I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
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Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
> busting ass from your 20s to mid to late 50s, and then getting hopefully another 30 years to "enjoy life?" Its just slavery which the older generations thought was appropriate, much like having a large family to look after you was a thing before family sizes came down. It sounds cliched, but have a bucket list of things you want to do and try to do some of them. Put yourself first and your job second because the da…
How is working for money slavery? Do you believe food just magically appears on your plate, water cleans itself, your plumbing just happens to work, medical services operate autonomously etc.? The problem here, is you're an elitist. For you, your boring desk job is slavery so you want the freedom to go about doing whatever you want while the peasants provide you the means to continue being fat happy without providing…
Every politician I meet I ask the same question: what do we do when automation has driven the value of nearly all human labor down to pennies? None have an answer. Nobody that's a big fan of the current system has given me an answer other than "it'll never happen," but it seems inevitable to me.
The usa already subsidizes food non productivity to maintain stable prices for agriculture. So why don't they just stop doing that so food does magically appear on my plate? Is maintaining broken market dynamics in every aspect of life so important that it justifies some going hungry, some working two jobs, all of us working 40 hours a week until we're 60?
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
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OP here, that is correct and I am french, I thought that it was right actually. what should have been the proper way to say I left that industry?
"I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier" is how I'd have written it. Thanks for the good-read!
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#165I had watched a few courses on information security and noticed that those working in the more management / corporate related infosec roles seemed to be massively overweight, almost all of them (I am too, btw). Not saying that to shame anyone, just: Does the job make you miserable or stressed out? I have been forced to do the infosec role as a "side thing" in a couple of jobs now, mainly because nobody else was aroun…
Oh , yes. Infosec has all the downsides of being an ER/ICU nurse at a miserably understaffed hospital, with ~none of the upsides of saving people or genuine patient/family gratitude.
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
> busting ass from your 20s to mid to late 50s, and then getting hopefully another 30 years to "enjoy life?" Its just slavery which the older generations thought was appropriate, much like having a large family to look after you was a thing before family sizes came down. It sounds cliched, but have a bucket list of things you want to do and try to do some of them. Put yourself first and your job second because the da…
How is working for money slavery? Do you believe food just magically appears on your plate, water cleans itself, your plumbing just happens to work, medical services operate autonomously etc.? The problem here, is you're an elitist. For you, your boring desk job is slavery so you want the freedom to go about doing whatever you want while the peasants provide you the means to continue being fat happy without providing…
Its not, but the way the money is distributed and created is. For example during the 2008 crisis because the velocity of money fell, banks were desperate to get people spending again so interest free £million were offered to the rich in order to get them to spend money in the economy, reinforcing the trickle down concept.
> is you're an elitist.
What gave you that impression?
> that has the inability to understand how society operates as a whole.
So explain it then? Explain society.
> want is to subject a certain class to "slavery" to support your endeavors.
I think you are further from the truth, if I could take a pill or an injection to end my live in a non barbaric way today, I would take it. Unfortunately thats not on offer because society dictates I need to be tortured to support it.
My life has already been stolen, and there isnt the science to replace it.
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Millennial here as well, it's really excited to see our generation and the next generation reject "making money for someone else" as a way of finding meaning in life. I'm chewing on a lot of blog posts about this, regarding for example how the concept of "retirement" is terrifying. I was on a cruise recently and talking with a bunch of old people, and the subject often came up about how people were "finally taking th…
In their 20s and 30s, my siblings pursued their own interests and desires, but unfortunately, this approach did not lead to success. Now in their late 50s and early 60s, they find themselves lacking the necessary skills and experience to keep up with the rapidly changing job market. As a result, they are limited to unskilled labor, with no significant savings or retirement plans. Despite having pursued their dreams w…
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Millennial here as well, it's really excited to see our generation and the next generation reject "making money for someone else" as a way of finding meaning in life. I'm chewing on a lot of blog posts about this, regarding for example how the concept of "retirement" is terrifying. I was on a cruise recently and talking with a bunch of old people, and the subject often came up about how people were "finally taking th…
> I'm chewing on a lot of blog posts about this Care to share some of your favorite findings?
The topics are
1. Capitalism takes away your ability to be bored, at least mostly. You'll spend the majority of your time at work. You can be bored there, but not in a very productive way. Your boredom is a function of the company's failure to extract maximum value from you every hour you're there. My gf got laid off with a severance, her boredom is a gift, she can sit and be bored and in that way think about what her purpose is, why she likes being alive and what she wants to do with it. In that way capitalism steals purpose: your purpose day to day is to drive profits for a company. It's not explicitly evil or bad feeling when that happens, because the system rewards you in a million ways when you do tie your purpose to a company's profits. In what ways can people escape this to explore what their purpose might actually be? This isn't necessarily a new thought, I just wanted to explore it.
2. That "retirement" exists as a concept is terrifying for so many reasons, as listed above. It also creates a kind of cultural expectation of sacrificing the bulk of your life to "earn the right" to leisure... but some people are born into that right. That sucks.
3. Capitalism may have weaponized and pillaged the desire to be a part of something greater. Similar to 1, there's probably a natural human desire to "be a part of something greater" (heard in countless interviews of people that do otherwise kinda strange things like join violent militaries or participate in cults or allow themselves to be hazed to join frats). When you join a company, that desire is cannibalized to feed the needs of the corporation. Your day to day energy to spend on being a part of your local community is instead directed to the needs of a company who is possibly transnational and who even could be directly harming your community, by for example dumping trainfuls of harmful chemicals in your backyard. Corporations and corporate culture have been very good at directing the desire to have a common goal and be working together on something, but did they invent these techniques or just pillage them? Is project management something unique to capitalism? What happens if you get a big group of people who aren't having these energies directed by a profit minded project manager, what will they do in their own communities to find meaning? What happens when you take a highly skilled project manager and put them in a situation where there's no profit to be made, what kind of projects and organization will they dream up? This because I do a lot of anarchistic direct action and communal work and am always thinking about managing goals, projects, tasks, needs, and etc in situations where there's no profit motive.
I'm also working on a blog post about how tf to get the 80 different web dev aligned emacs major modes to all respect a .editorconfig file and another one journaling my family's visit to Taiwan so realistically I'm spinning way too many plates....
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#169I had watched a few courses on information security and noticed that those working in the more management / corporate related infosec roles seemed to be massively overweight, almost all of them (I am too, btw). Not saying that to shame anyone, just: Does the job make you miserable or stressed out? I have been forced to do the infosec role as a "side thing" in a couple of jobs now, mainly because nobody else was aroun…
I manage a monitoring and ir team and am obese. I tend to stress eat and there is a lot of stress playing defense all the time.
Medication shouldn't be out of the question to stop the stress from killing you. I don't need to know any specifics but just when you say "stress" and "overweight" I can tell you to get checked for at the very least sleep apnea and diabetes. Both can and will ruin your day if you don't catch them early enough, and most people don't.
Re: I quit infosec and I couldn't be happier
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
In their 20s and 30s, my siblings pursued their own interests and desires, but unfortunately, this approach did not lead to success. Now in their late 50s and early 60s, they find themselves lacking the necessary skills and experience to keep up with the rapidly changing job market. As a result, they are limited to unskilled labor, with no significant savings or retirement plans. Despite having pursued their dreams w…
Then I would argue that it is a systemic issue that people who do "unskilled work" are not paid enough to be able to save money or access retirement plans (I assume you live in the US where there isn't a public pension system)
I'm also perplexed about the people who say things like 'why should I make someone else rich'. can you imagine that in an interview? yeah hire me, but you better not be making a profit on me. you better break even or lose money or I'm out! you should WANT people to make money off your efforts.