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Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Post by r85804306610 »

nilespotter wrote: post #71
bsder wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because if the media starts covering it hard, way more than half the population of the US will plug their ears and start saying "LA LA LA LA LA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" really loudly. If this gets coverage, suddenly lots of inconvenient questions start popping up around monopoly, safety regulations and OSHA, and union workers warning about this 2 months ago. But, hey, everybody got their Amazon packages by Christmas, so i…

> union workers warning about this 2 months ago First I've heard that, got a reference?

from another thread, https://time.com/6238361/joe-biden-rail-strike-illegal/

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Post by robertoandred »

renewedrebecca wrote: post #17

A thread from Mastodon, with a few pictures: https://oldbytes.space/@swordsjew@mstdn.social/1098487070662...

> The local police blew it up like a beached whale, now megatoxins are Chernobyling Ohio and there's a news blackout and the police are beating reporters and camera people and dragging em

This is simply a set of lies.

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Post by XorNot »

rhaway84773 wrote: post #94
jonny_eh wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“You’ve not heard about it”

The previous HN comments were also filled with “the media is not covering this!”. With the HN post linking to the Guardian and the top comment I saw at the time being a link to the NYTimes. There may be legitimate arguments about whether it should get more coverage relative to other news, but it isn’t a conspiracy. It’s simple. People don’t want read/hear about this stuff in the US and US news, unfortunately, is a co…

I would argue this is getting covered exactly the amount it should. Because everyone seems to know about it, and no one who thinks it should be covered more seems to have anything to add to it.

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Post by belltaco »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #55
Rebelgecko wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What media? I saw it on CNN today. Fox News's website has multiple stories about this from the last hour. The only place where the train stuff seems underrepresented is on some of the big subreddits (which are echo chambers already, so not surprising)

[flagged]

Trivially disproved.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/111lv6d/there_were_mo...

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Post by remote_phone »

It’s funny how much coverage rich people in jets get, but this destructions of the lives of tens of thousands from an environmental catastrophe gets very little media coverage and outrage.

This should never have happened and tens of thousands will die from the after effects. It’s disgusting.

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Post by sbaiddn »

s5300 wrote: post #134

This is going to sound exceptionally crass… But as somebody who’s from the outright poorest part of Ohio, with generations of coal workers in the family… I’m sitting here, in the West Coast sun, laughing about this. I’ve also spent significant amounts of time in the general region of this disaster It’s awful. The situation is absolutely awful, that town & everything in a radius around it is genuinely fucked, and from…

"I’m sitting here, in the West Coast sun, laughing about this. "

Myself, I'll try not to laugh when millions of people stupid enough to live on the San Andreas fault line relocate into the ocean overnight. Out of a misplaced sense of unrequited empathy.

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Post by Izkata »

kevviiinn wrote: post #123
nimbius wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsurprising. Even the love canal disaster in the US faced massive disinterest before it was quietly revealed to have been a cataclysmic environmental contamination. It boils down to this: - rail fired a ton of employees a while ago and is now seeing serious issues due to mismanagement - government oversight is a moderate Republican masquerading as a liberal democrat and just wants the clout from successful negotiati…

Also add on that the rail workers tried to strike over the issues and Biden was like "lol nope" It's just capitalism being capitalism in the end For all of you who down vote: https://time.com/6238361/joe-biden-rail-strike-illegal/

> Biden decided the broader economy was a bigger priority than 100,000 freight rail workers having any paid sick leave in their next contract. After campaigning as the most pro-union presidential candidate in history, Biden signed into law a measure that makes a rail strike illegal.

Forcing it like that is not capitalism.

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Post by asdff »

Tronno wrote: post #152
King-Aaron wrote: post #28

This was posted to reddit the other day: https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/110nlai/... The footage has a lot of NSFW language, so just watch out for that. Within that thread there's some good discussion about some of the compounds that are being released into the air, and it is indeed very grim. Interestingly here in Australia, I've heard about it a lot more in traditional media than my American fri…

This footage is of regular clouds, despite the breathless commentary in the video. Details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/110nlai/... The derailment is, no doubt, a serious public health crisis. However, it helps no-one to spread misleading videos and commentary. The wave of panic in the thread you posted is a stark example of "fake news" in action. A sign of the times, I suppose.

Pictures of the plume from a distance don't look much better, it may be cloudy but this is no stormcloud:

https://www.wfmj.com/story/48362031/fifth-negligence-suit-wo...

https://twitter.com/Justice314Lady/status/162347826755341107...

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Post by ALittleLight »

wnevets wrote: post #139

I got to know, do the pro nuclear crowd really want to live down wind of a nuclear power plant when they will be run by the same business processes and deregulation that lead to this disaster, Fukushima, the BP oil rig disaster, etc?

I think something like 20% of electricity in the US currently comes from nuclear. It's an extremely safe source of power - proven out over decades. So, yes, it's perfectly safe to live near a nuclear power plant.
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