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Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by ratg13 »

denton-scratch wrote: post #148
daneel_w wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They offer three families of resolvers: the default one which as far as I understand isn't curated at all, the "zero" one which is curated against "bad actors", and the "kids" one which you speak of.

> They offer three families of resolvers Yeah, I see. On first reading, that wasn't obvious to me. But a DNS provider that can filter, and that also purports to be something to do with the EU, presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering, whichever server you choose. Or it will, as soon as it's ordered to. I don't get why people use 3rd-party resolvers. It's not hard to set up an Unbound recursor.

Think about how many people want to at least keep their children safe online and do not have an easy means to do so.

This helps make simple solutions accessible to a wider audience.

Sure you may not care if your children are watching porn at age 6 .. some may prefer to parent differently.

Giving people an option is not a bad thing, and it does not purport to be anything to do with the EU itself, just built for the EU market.

If you're the type of person to think Federal Express is part of the US government, that's partially on you.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by moffkalast »

msm_ wrote: post #149
moffkalast wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So in short, they're completely noncredible. I'm not sure who in the right mind would trust a random small company with their DNS.

They're not random, they're a French non-profit (created by cofounders of nextdns, btw). Why wouldn't people trust them? In my country most people use a DNS hosted by their ISP, and there are a lot of small ISPs all around. I suspect it's similar everywhere. How is it different? And anyway, I trust a random French small company more than I trust Google.

Well yes exactly, the only reason you'd switch to a trusted service over a default is to hopefully shield from DNS poisoning and other shenanigans. It would need to be a proven trustworthy service, and just about anyone with a few hours of spare time and literally no cash can open a French NGO, they've got the lowest barrier for entry of any EU country. Just slapping on a nextdns logo doesn't mean shit. It's completely pointless unless it's an EU official government service financed directly by our tax dollars.

Google has a reputation to uphold, so while you can be certain they'll be datamining the shit out of your requests they are also unlikely to be direct malicious actors.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by moduspol »

sgjohnson wrote: post #95
moffkalast wrote: post #6

> 193.110.81.0 Ah yes, easy to remember /s

The era of easy to remember DNS server addresses is coming to a close anyway, due to IPv6. Cloudflare’s are 2606:4700:4700:1001:: and 2606:4700:4700:1111:: I’ve been deploying IPv6 recently and these addresses haven’t burnt into my brains yet, so I occasionally have to do `dig AAAA one.one.one.one` still.

Coming soon: my public IPv6 dns at dead:beef::

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by nix23 »

danuker wrote: post #89
nix23 wrote: post #85

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Please please inform them about it.

I seem to have worked around it with a DNS cache (systemd-resolved as the Linux instructions for dns0.eu suggest). I don't have time or care enough to debug intermittent network issues, if they no longer bother me.

I think you have other problems then just a plug on cache then...

>I don't have time or care enough to debug intermittent network issues, if they no longer bother me.

I see who's the problem now ;)

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by _hcuq »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #159
denton-scratch wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They offer three families of resolvers Yeah, I see. On first reading, that wasn't obvious to me. But a DNS provider that can filter, and that also purports to be something to do with the EU, presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering, whichever server you choose. Or it will, as soon as it's ordered to. I don't get why people use 3rd-party resolvers. It's not hard to set up an Unbound recursor.

"presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering" Source?

He’s been triggered. He either didn’t read the article or doesn’t understand it.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by przemub »

denton-scratch wrote: post #148
daneel_w wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They offer three families of resolvers: the default one which as far as I understand isn't curated at all, the "zero" one which is curated against "bad actors", and the "kids" one which you speak of.

> They offer three families of resolvers Yeah, I see. On first reading, that wasn't obvious to me. But a DNS provider that can filter, and that also purports to be something to do with the EU, presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering, whichever server you choose. Or it will, as soon as it's ordered to. I don't get why people use 3rd-party resolvers. It's not hard to set up an Unbound recursor.

It is within .eu domain. Nothing to do with the European Union.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by BarbaPeru »

ratg13 wrote: post #161
denton-scratch wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They offer three families of resolvers Yeah, I see. On first reading, that wasn't obvious to me. But a DNS provider that can filter, and that also purports to be something to do with the EU, presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering, whichever server you choose. Or it will, as soon as it's ordered to. I don't get why people use 3rd-party resolvers. It's not hard to set up an Unbound recursor.

Think about how many people want to at least keep their children safe online and do not have an easy means to do so. This helps make simple solutions accessible to a wider audience. Sure you may not care if your children are watching porn at age 6 .. some may prefer to parent differently. Giving people an option is not a bad thing, and it does not purport to be anything to do with the EU itself, just built for the EU…

IMHO the only solution for real safety for children on internet are the parents that navigate with the child and education, any other solution is only a patch that give false security. And, above all, you're giving to other people the right to choose what is good or bad for your children. Not my way.

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

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Post by codesniperjoe »

Warning:

Do not go to this site with enabled javascript! They spam your uplink DNS provider with thousands of uniq, uncachable (fingerprinting?) 'test' dns keys without your consent, to identify & track the DNS service you are using!

Take a look at your DNS outbound log yourself!

Re: DNS0: The European public DNS that makes your internet safer

#170

Post by izacus »

xctr94 wrote: post #129
izacus wrote: post #84

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> Admittedly I don't live in the EU so to some of you folks the non-affiliation may seem obvious. The webpage is too nice looking and lacking the 30 poorly resized 80x80 EU institution logos. So yeah, not affiliated ;P

On the other hand, it doesn’t handle internationalization very well; something I find the EUI websites do properly.

Another proof!
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